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 Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faecalis 
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Post Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faecalis
I want to share my success story. I contracted Bacterial Prostatitis on July 2010. I was 24 at the time. The infection was E-coli, Candida and Enterococcus Faecalis. The first course of antibiotics got rid of the E-coli and the Candida but not the Enterococcus Faecalis. I had multiple courses of antibiotics thereafter including: Sulfamethoxazole Cephalexin, Augmentin (two courses of 2 weeks and after 1 year of 30 days). My last positive culture came back saying I had Serratia bacterial infection. I tried various "natural treatments" you can find online like vitamin C, Cranberry juice, coconut oil, Cayenne pepper but nothing worked. After two years of failed treatments I visited an Infectious disease specialist who finally found a cure. He put me on Levaquin (orally) and Ceftriaxone (intravenously). After 24 days my cultures came back negative for the first time in two years.

My symptoms were never bad. Just redness and infrequent tenderness.

Some more details: The intravenous antibiotics (Ceftriaxone) required a pic line http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... l_catheter. I also had to get and MRI.

As far as how much this cost, I was lucky I had insurance. My insurance got billed for for over $22,000 for the treatment that worked. If you don't have insurance expect the following: intravenous antibiotics - $10,000, MRI - $2000, PICC line placement - $3500 (it is considered minor surgery), lab work, doctor's visits, and intravenous visits were the rest. I ended up paying about $3,000 out of pocket because the insurance the best but you can schedule a payment plan and pay over a few years if your bills are high.

The Infectious Disease doctor was Eugene French and I highly recommend him if you are in the Tri-State area. He is based in North NJ, just google his name. If you do end up needing Intravenous Antibiotics, Dr French does them in his office. His staff is great and he can have up to 20 people in there getting treatment at the same time. Some antibiotics take 10-15 min some take 2-3 hours to administer and you have to be there every day. You might have to take time off work if your treatment requires Intravenous antibiotics. You might have to go on disability if you can't adjust your schedule at work.

Here is the doctor's link
http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... ench-y6hvn
http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... CK-NJ.html

All in all, if you have a detectable recurring infection you should definitely consult an infectologist. Every case is specific but my experience showed me that if you find the right doctor you can get rid of this nasty bacteria.

If you have any questions posts here and I will reply back


Thu May 02, 2013 11:31 pm
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
Do you still have symptom?
How did they culture the bacteria?


Fri May 03, 2013 12:13 am
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
I would also like to know wich lab was culturing your bacteria... Im impress that your dr was able to culture all does bacteria!!! Your a lucky guy that you have a dr like this.


Fri May 03, 2013 11:39 am
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
Hi Shaky,

I don't have symptoms anymore. As I said my symptoms were never bad. Just redness after ejaculation, and infrequent tenderness in the perineum. I was feeling very very slight burning but it might have been in my head. I don't have any of these symptoms any more.

As far as labs go I used multiple ones with multiple doctors. The initial tests were done at http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... rence.com/ I presume the lab is in Northern Jersey. More tests were done at the Cleveland Clinic in Cleveland Ohio. Final tests were done using Quest Diagnostics. The labs in Ridgewood and Ramsey.

I was definitely lucky with my last doctor but I never had a negative cultures. Enterococcus Faecalis showed up in all my lab work until the end.

I know that a lot of people suffer from non-bacterial prostatitis. I was lucky that my problem was detectable and treatable. Prostatitis vary from patient to patient but if there is a detectable infection you should really seek an Infectious Disease Specialist. They will give you antibiotics for sure but hopefully they will give you the right ones.


Fri May 03, 2013 3:11 pm
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
James-
I think you said it when you stated that no matter the test, you consistently showed positive for bacterial prostatitis. For us sufferers that don't a person needs to search in other directions.

Your story is good hope for the suffers that have consistently proved positive for infection. I'm writing this 100% pain and symptom free after months of physical therapy and sticking with a committed physician.

I'm happy for your results, I think your story can help folks. I just hope that other suffers with non-bacterial prostatitis look at the other treatments that are out there.


Fri May 03, 2013 8:45 pm
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Richard-
I absolutely agree with you. My case was strictly bacterial prostatitis and my treatment will probably not help people who are not positive for bacterial infection.

I am happy physical therapy helped you and you are lucky to have found a committed physician.

I really encourage people reading this to seek the adequate treatment for their case. If you have non-bacterial prostatitis don't let doctors give you antibiotics just because. Advocate for your interests and do your research.

With that said good luck to people reading this.


Fri May 03, 2013 11:09 pm
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
James,

What type of cultures did you have done? Can you be a little more specific to how your bacteria was found?

Did it show up in:
1) Urine/Urinalysis
2) Post-prostate Massage Urine (doc first massages prostate then cultures urine)
3) EPS or "expressed prostatic secretion" (doc massages prostate and cultures the prostate fluid)

Which of these did you have? And where were the positive results seen? How long were your cultures sent out for? (i.e. number of days)


Sun May 05, 2013 12:54 pm
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
Hey,

Sorry for the delayed reply. I didn't get any notification email that someone has posted on this forum.

They found bacteria in the prostate fluid.
I never had a UTI and no bacteria was found in the urine.

As far as labs go, I used multiple ones with multiple doctors. The initial tests were done at Bioreference. I presume the lab is in Northern Jersey. More tests were done at the Cleveland Clinic in Cleveland Ohio. Final tests were done using Quest Diagnostics; the labs in Ridgewood and Ramsey.

Cultures in Cleveland were obtained by EPS
All other cultures were obtained by me providing semen culture to the labs in a sterile cup.
Cultures were sent for anywhere from 3 to 5 days. My last negative result was cultured 5 days just to make sure it was negative.

I was definitely lucky with my last doctor but all my cultures were positive for bacteria prior to finding a cure. Enterococcus Faecalis showed up in all my lab work before that.

Good luck


Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:22 am
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
Has anyone called or see this doctor Eugene French?


Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:12 am
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do you have to have the prostate massage for 15 minutes to drain the prostate fluid? I can't find a urologist who will culture the prostate fluid. maybe the injections with Dr. Toth are the only solution, I wonder if it's going to be over 1,000 though for the treatment


Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:50 am
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
Stillpain,

you dont need really prostatic fluid, just get a semen culture. If you are in NY, let me know.

Almost any infertility specialist will do it, that is the trick.


Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:18 am
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
James2708 wrote:
My symptoms were never bad. Just redness and infrequent tenderness.


James, where do you have the redness?
My symptoms are inflamed, irritated, redness penis meatus. Burning and pain in tip of penis.
I recently did a semen culture and this is what it says on the report:

Notes: NO BACTERIAL SEEN
Notes: COMMENSAL FLORA

I just realized the commensal flora part thanks to a friend on this forum. The Doctor told me that there was no bacteria found and I was happy and out the door, thank God I grabbed a copy of the report. I looked up what commensan flora is, and it's gut bacteria. I swear to God, it's all these labs fault, but thank goodness at least they put this on the report cause other labs just consider gut bacteria to be nothing and they don't mention it. I have gut bacteria in my semen which is in my prostate. I don't know which ones, that I will find out through a broth test when I get one done. Gut bacteria should not belong in the Prostate, how could my Doctor not see this. Geeezz. It's cause the medical community is lacking knowledge in this field that they don't know.
James, did you have any penis meatus symptoms like I do.


Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:57 pm
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
Antibiotics shouldn't be taken for prostratitis when no uti is present.
Most men have bacterial in their prostrates that can flare up but will
settle down in time and go into lengthy remission.


Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:13 am
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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
Are you saying that it's normal to have gut bacteria in the prostate?
This is what I'm trying to figure out. But than some say gut bacteria does not belong in the prostate or in the urinary tract/bladder and some say it does. No one knows for sure.
Gut bacteria like E.coli, Enterococcus, Klebsiella, ... do these and many other gut bacteria belong in the prostate or bladder is the real question.
Hence a broth culture of a healthy person vs an infected person is needed for comparison.
There is a published study paper that says that E.coli can migrate from the gut to the bladder. If E.coli can do this than other gut bacteria can do the same as well. So the question arises, when do these bacteria or pathogens as I like to call them cause problems when they are in the prostate or genital organs?


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Post Re: Success Story: Bacterial Prostatitis, Enterococcus Faeca
turkoporto wrote:
So the question arises, when do these bacteria or pathogens as I like to call them cause problems when they are in the prostate or genital organs?


Well one of my uro's opinion is that bacteria should not be able to get cultured from the semen in any quantity

I would say their number makes them pathogenic, just like with ureaplasma.


Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:07 pm
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