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The urologist has prescribed me 15 days of Amoxicillin and another 15 of Fosfomicyn. I hope this works.

It seems that my prostatitis is caused by a very stubborn enterococcus faecalis.


Mon May 02, 2016 6:07 pm
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Chavalote wrote:
The urologist has prescribed me 15 days of Amoxicillin and another 15 of Fosfomicyn. I hope this works.

It seems that my prostatitis is caused by a very stubborn enterococcus faecalis.


So they have found this bacteria in your prostate? I think you need to find a pelvic floor therapist close by to you. I think you will see the most improvement with that. I have seen a pelvic floor therapist and she had patients that had bacterial-prostatitis and there conditions and suffering was greatly improved wtih pelvic floor therapy. http://forum.prostatitis.org/viewtopic.php?t=456 Maybe you should see an "infectious disease specialist" like the guy in that link did to get rid of the bacteria. I don't know much about how to deal with bacterial prostatitis as I had non-bacterial but I know pelvic floor therapy will help relieve the suffering.


Mon May 02, 2016 9:43 pm
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I'm also waiting for the results of a MRI of the pelvic zone to see if there is something wrong with that. I will take it to the physiotherapist and I'll post the results here.


Mon May 02, 2016 10:06 pm
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A semen culture can show up infection in any (or even all) of: prostate, seminal vesicle, urethra, epididymis or testicle.

I would have thought that 4-6 weeks of any antibiotic would be recommended for a chronic infection of the prostate or seminal vesicle, although I can see that fosfomycin seems to be quite an expensive antibiotic to use. Use of fosfomycin is discussed at http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... le/439348/ where it mentions a trial where it was given for "a total of 6 weeks" with good results.

As far as I can understand the reason for longer course of antibiotics, 'successful' shorter courses can improve symptoms, but without fully controlling the infection. Later on, recurrences and complications of infection occur more often in men given shorter courses than they do in men who are given longer courses.


Mon May 02, 2016 10:25 pm
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Yes, I have forgotten to answer that question to Jojo12. I don't know if the infection is exactly or only in the prostate. Another urologist did a rectal examination a few months ago and he said that the prostate is inflamed. Anyway, PSA level was normal this time (1.4 or 5).

My semen is very weird. It comes with lumps and watery so maybe another places such as seminal vesicles are affected too but how can I know that? Is there any test to detect seminal vesiculitis?

The Fosfomycin is the second antibiotic I must take after the other. I don't know why he has prescibed me two. It would be like a dream if this works finally. I miss my libido and my orgasms so much.


Mon May 02, 2016 11:39 pm
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http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... /7156.full

I found this article where Enterococcus faecalis is treated and moxifloxacin did the job in 3 cases. Maybe you should give that a go. Bacterial is just so complicated. I really hope you find something that helps you.


Tue May 03, 2016 3:46 am
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Hi Chav,

From reading your posts I can see that your worried about the loss of libido and sexual arousal. in your initial post you talked about anxiolytics and didn't really say what you were taking / for how long and how you stopped.

3 years ago i quited my drugs after 7-8 years of taking anxiolytics/anti-depressants I ended up with some low libido issues (Had low libidio during taking the meds too but got worth post-meds !) and lots of depression/anxitey and prostatis (so a pretty bumpy ride).

From what I understand, experience and what I had read at those times, quitting anxiolytics/antidepressants irregardless of how long you have taking them can give rise to libido problems and in some cases numbness in genitals, this is true both for men and women. Some patients after quitting anxiolytics/ADs usually go through a series of very awful symptoms refereed to by them as Withdrawal Symptoms or Protracted Withdrawal where libido issues includes one of them. Theses symptoms are widely neglected and not accepted by main stream medical community however there are thousands of patients whom are sharing their symptoms and problems on websites like this.


Tue May 03, 2016 8:55 pm
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I was living in Japan and the names were different but I think that two of them were Sulpiride and Bromazepam. I haven't dismissed the anxyolitics hypothesis at all. Maybe they affect the prostate and make it more vulnerable to infections. The symptoms were pretty similar. Genital numbness, weak orgasms... I also have read that that conditions can last even years after having stopped the "treatment" but I didn't read nothing about the solution.

I think I was taking them like 2 years. I quit them 4 or 5 years ago.

I wish I would know about some drug that reverts the effects of those on the libido and orgasms to see if that helps, at least with the arousal and sexual desire.


Tue May 03, 2016 11:49 pm
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I can say it with a good confidence that the anxyolitics are playing a major role in your low libido, weak orgasms and numbness. two years is a still a quite long time to be on them, and the issues could be even worse if you don't tapper them slowly. benzos are known to have pretty awful withdrawal issues. And from what I remember the only solution is TIME until your brain heals

I had read about many people with libidio issue whom had to wait for number of years to get better. There used to be a good forum for people coming off ADs called paxiprogress.org but it got closed down, you might want to look at this forum survivingantidepressants.org and read on people with the similar conditions.


Wed May 04, 2016 7:41 am
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I don't know well if the low libido is related to the anxiolyitics or the chronic bacterial infection that I've got detected. An infected prostate may lower the libido too. If you feel your penis numb and the ejaculations are burning rather than pleasurable it's normal that the libido goes down. I think that first I must focus in cleaning that stubborn bacterial infection.

I read months ago that they were making a drug in England that reverts the low libido caused by psychiatric drugs, I don't know how it works and if they have released it. I'll think about trying something like that if curing the prostatitis doesn't solve the low libido problem.

PS: Since I quitted the salads and the raw vegetables I haven't suffered thin feces and semi-diarrhea. Maybe in my case the prostatitis and the digestive issues were not related at all.


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I have the MRI results. The doctor at the physiotherapy clinic has told me that everything is ok. There is a mild discopathy in the L4-L5 and L5-S1 but he has said that it's not important. The problem is that this MRI doesn't show well the pelvic zone so he has told me that I must do another if I want to know how my pelvis and prostate are. I was very nervous at the MRI room so I'll wait until my antibiotics treatment ends. If I can't cure this with antibiotics, by cleaning the infection, I'll think about doing another MRI of the pelvic zone.

I'm going to go to physiotherapy sessions though, because I have mild pain in the lower back.

I'm thinking that my prostatitis is an infection and the pain in the lower back is a consequence, though.


Thu May 05, 2016 1:15 pm
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The allergist prescribed me glucocorticoids (30 mg 5 days and half another 5 days) for the allergy symptoms. I have the hope that that could improve the prostate inflammation and let the antibiotics I'm taking enter better. Can be that possible?


Tue May 10, 2016 12:22 pm
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If you have another MRI done, will you inform us of how it went and what the doctor's interpretation was of the results? It's interesting that he'd simply say you need another one if you want to know how your prostate and pelvis are doing. Is it another of the same kind of MRI, or a different kind? I'm considering getting an MRI, but I'm hesitant because I read that it's not a test that shows much in the pelvic area. Perhaps there's more to it than I have information about.


Sun May 15, 2016 1:33 pm
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He prescribed me both, one of the lower back and one of the pelvic zone, but in the hospital, for any reason, they only did the lower back one. He said that that doesn't show the prostate. I'm currently on an antibiotic treatment. If this doesn't work I'll think about making the pelvic zone MRI to see if there is something wrong there, maybe something stuck, an abscess or who knows. When I ejaculate I feel that zone like if it were obstructed. This thing is ruining my orgasms and pleasurable feelings when masturbating.


Sun May 15, 2016 2:06 pm
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Ok, here goes my update.

I'm on the fifth day on Fosfomicyn of my Amoxicillin (15 days) and Fosfomicyn (15 days) treatment. I'm still taking one Amoxicillin pill per day also.

I have noticed weird changes these days which I don't know if they are really good or bad. When I ejaculate my erection is stronger (usually it's a bit weak) but the pre-ejaculation moments and the ejaculation hurts a lot, like in the worst days. Ejaculating these days is like expelling acid through the urethra, it burns a lot and also inside, in the prostate sides, I feel a lot of burning when the semen is going to come out. I read in this forum that sometimes, when the antibiotics are cleaning the infection, the dying bacteria releases toxic stuff and that worsen the condition during a few days but I don't know. I honestly have no much hope. I think that this is not working and the bacteria simply are more active for any reason I can't guess.

I also have diluted one Amoxicillin pill and have inserted some water with that in the urethra hoping that that could reach the prostate but it seems it also doesn't work.

I think that I will go to the urologist again with no good results and without knowing what to do next. More antibiotics? The question is, why they don't work? The bacteria gets resistant quickly or they don't reach the infected zone enough?

It's stifling to know that you have a "monster" there, inside your prostate (and maybe other places such as the seminal vesicles), that is destroying your sexual functions and don't know how to get rid of it. This thing has made me forget what a healthy orgasm felt like. All I feel when ejaculating is pain, an unbearable burning pain. The strange thing is that when I don't masturbate or urinate I don't feel pain at all (that's a difference with a lot of guys here).


Fri May 20, 2016 6:29 pm
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The 'acid pain' you're getting is exactly what I've experienced in the past when antibiotics started to work on my seminal vesiculitis. I would always view this as a positive effect.

It's likely to be due to alkaline - not acidic - secretions though.

Definitely not a good idea to put Amoxycillin in your urethra!


Fri May 20, 2016 9:55 pm
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I only have inserted a few drops with a cleanex, I was desperate. I can't bear anymore this. I mean, I know that no matter how I try, I can't feel a normal ejaculation with a normal orgasm, even the erections hurts. This is a curse, indeed. It's like being castrated.


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I don't have any pain when masturbating or ejaculating. The only pain that's similar to that scenario that I get is burning after urinating. But that has been reducing lately. I think it's because I'm going less frequently, and emptying more fully, which means there isn't a back flow of urine and/or urine staying in the urethra. Maclondon is right I think. It's much more likely that it's alkaline because for the most part, I think urine is basic itself (base vs. acid), though it may vary. Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) has a pH of 11.75, which makes it a relatively strong base (alkaline). And when you pour it on an open wound, it's painful, as though you poured acid because it starts bubbling and simmering and burns. This is to clean the wound of bacteria and other microbes that may have gotten into the wound. Even if the amoxicillin is affecting healthy, normal bacteria in the prostate, then it still might cause the burning in urethra as bacteria release their toxins and whatever else. If you're willing to put up with other side effects than that, I'd suggest trying natural or partly natural supplements.


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I wouldn't mind this burning if it means that the infection is getting cleaned and eventually the bacteria will be gone but I'm not sure. The burning is always there when I ejaculate, but these days I have noticed that it has become more strong and painful. I'm not sure if this is due to the antibiotics treatment or it's just a coincidence, because I have had days like these other times (this thing fluctuates, the burning can be felt like a weak orgasm with a mild stinging or a very painful ejaculation).

I can't imagine the day (if it comes) that my masturbations will be normal and pleasurable. This thing is not only affecting my orgasm response, it also destroys all the sexual pleasure since the erection. In other words, masturbating is not a increasing pleasure till the orgasm, it's a increasing burning and numbness till some kind of sensation like urinating semen that feels like lemon in the urethra (in the worst cases).


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I think that I will go to the urologist again with no good results and without knowing what to do next. More antibiotics? The question is, why they don't work? The bacteria gets resistant quickly or they don't reach the infected zone enough?

It's stifling to know that you have a "monster" there, inside your prostate (and maybe other places such as the seminal vesicles), that is destroying your sexual functions and don't know how to get rid of it.


You do know that there may be NO harmful bacteria in your prostate, right? From all the different research and forums I have read, it seems the vast majority of chronic sufferers do NOT have bacteria. My doctor explained to my why he doesn't think I have bacteria, and I finally believed him. I did read the articles that say "it's bacteria causing it whether antibiotics work or not" but I'm not sure I believe that.

Your body is perfectly capable of maintaining or even strengthening an anti-inflammatory response for NO apparent reason. I think it's very unlikely that spamming your body with antibiotics will be helpful,and perhaps more likely that it will be harmful (especially putting a drop in your urethra... that doesn't sound good to me).

I still think holistic approach, disconnecting your mind from this as much as possible, and the therapeutic things I've mentioned before are the best to do. (Assuming you've already evaluated bladder issues and other things with your doctor)

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They have found 3 times an enterococcus faecalis in my cultures. I think that it's logical to think that my prostatitis is being caused by that bacteria.


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Why not consider doing both approaches? treat your infection, and at the same time have PT done, stretches, internal massage, external massage, etc. You have nothing to lose. I did Cipro combined with colloidal silver for 4 month, with a whole array of other antibacterial, viral, and fungal, herbs, made no difference what so ever, in fact like i said in previous posts it ended up destroying my stomach making me much worse, but now things have changed my gastritis has healed, my urinary symptoms have become much more tolerable, my pain is less.


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Update.

I have been in the urologist. Because I've seen no improvements with the antibiotic treatment I haven't seen the repeat of the cultures necessary. I thought that with the 3 positive cultures I have yet it was enough. He has said that he need the new culture done because maybe the bacteria has got resistant to the new antibiotics but I have said that it could be a false positive also. He has said that maybe that bacteria is not the culprit and I could have a lesion there. He has insisted on the new culture and I have agreed but I see the cultures not much reliable, I believe in my symptoms, which are the same. I have asked him also why I experienced more burning while the treatment and he has said that that doesn't make sense and maybe it's non-bacterial.

I must repeat the culture again to see if any bacteria appears and I have asked him what is the next step. He has said that maybe it's necessary to do a cystoscopy to see if there are any lesions there. I don't know if that can show any blockages or lesions in the prostate ejaculatory ducts but the idea of inserting a cable in my urethra frightens me. I have asked if they use anesthetics and he have said that he does it there, that it's not necessary to go to a hospital, but I wanted to know if they use any local anesthetics. I have not kept asking because always he seems to be in hurry and I also have been feeling bad because I haven't brought the cultures. Usually I feel that my questions bother the doctors.

So, my situation is this. I must do a culture again which I think that will come as negative (probably false negative) or with the same bacteria. I think that he will make a cystoscopy but I'm scared and I don't know if that would be useful with my problem. Anyone has done that? Did it help with the diagnose? I have read in the internet that they use a anesthetic gel. Does it hurt? I feel a lot of burning when I insert the rib to do cultures only 1 centimetre, I don't want to think what that thing could do because they insert it till the bladder.

My personal hypothesis is that this prostatitis is bacterial and the enterococcus faecalis is the culprit, but maybe the antibiotics don't reach the infected zone in enough amount. Judging by my sensations when I ejaculate I would say that the ejaculatory ducts are inflamed or blocked, specially in the left side. Maybe a cystoscopy could help in seeing that?


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If it's bacteria, how would you know whether it's not something happening to the bacteria that is normally there? I mean, we have streptococcus bacteria inside us normally, but it also causes strep throat, which involves inflammation. What is the point of maintaining an antibiotic regimen that could kill off good/normal bacteria? It could be that that bacteria is having some problems, which results in non-normal or abnormal activity, and the response is inflammation, along with the other symptoms.


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The Enterococcus faecalis is a bacteria that in theory should not be in the urogenital system. I don't know for sure if it is the culprit but the urologist told me the previous day that the chronic bacterial prostatitis usually is caused by that bacteria and the E. coli. Today he has said that "we have a lot of bacterias in the skin..." and so on, which is a totally different speech. I wonder why he has changed it. Maybe he hasn't it clear in his mind. I haven't met yet a doctor who can explain the things clearly and with consistency. That's why I question them and I can't trust them.

I'm not an idiot or an ignorant. I know basic stuff about biology, and I know that to believe that the bacteria are our "enemies" is a scientific prejudice (superstition, I would say further) since Pasteur times which is being refuted by the new studies and data. I hate taking antibiotics and assuming their risks but the most logical hypothesis here is that this bacteria is causing my inflammation; it has appeared 3 times in cultures and enterococcus faecalis is not a pathogen if it is in his place (the digestive system) but ouside there I think it can be a pathogen. Usually, bacterias are pathogenic when they are in a place where they should not be (like all the things in this universe).

I'm tired of not getting clear answers and only receiving cold attitudes from doctors. And surely now I must do another invasive and painful like a torture test. More than 5 years suffering this. My patience is getting shorter and shorter. Too much authority but not many listening and empathy.


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