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Hello forum,

I have to say that maybe I will be joining your club...unfortunately.
I would like to use this space here to track my progress in the fight against this annoying disease so that it might be of help to somebody out there (but i'm not cured yet.... it's just starting). It's going to be a lengthy post, with plenty of details, so brace yourselves. I also have to say that I'm not a native english speaker, so I apologize for any mistakes in my redaction.

A bit about me, and my prostate history:
I'm a 33 year old guy living in Japan for the past 3 years (I'm not japanese), doing regular office work, spending a lot of time sitting at a desk.

I suspected for a long time that my prostate or something around there was not in very good shape, and by that I mean back when I was a teenager. I used to play soccer back then, and i remember I started to get spasms in the groin area whenever I made an abrupt movement with the legs that required some tensioning of the pelvic muscles, for example when kicking the ball too hard or doing a strong grip with my feet. The spasm was instantaneous and was gone in a second, but it was very uncomfortable and made me stop playing. If I attempted to continue, the same spasm would happen again without much effort, which made me lose confidence and forced me to exit the field. I noticed that if I rested a couple of hours I was able to play again. But it got to a point that almost every time that I attempted to play, at some point or another the spasm would occur. At that time I told this to the family doctor. He recommended me to do a prostate examination, but I was too young at the time and was scared of somebody putting their finger in there, so he recommended an ultrasound instead, which I never did. Another case was around the same age (16-17) on one occasion that I was in the school urinals and a guy came from behind and jokingly pushed me forward, and I tried to stop urinating to prevent spilling, but this caused me an intensive pain in the groin area, as if some muscle had suddenly locked or cramped. I also experienced this same pain in another occasion that I was urinating while standing and involuntarily contracted my pelvic muscles at the end in a sort of reflex. Since then, I've learned to relax the muscles when urinating and have avoided this stabbing pain for years.

In the following years I developed an addiction to pornography and was masturbating very often. There were days when I would masturbate 3 or 4 times. This continued until I was 23 or 24. At that time, I began noticing that after masturbating too often, I could feel a sort of pressure and a mild pulsating pain in the groin, behind the testicles, like when a muscle feels tired. I figured that my excessive masturbation was probably being too much for the prostate. From that moment, I decided to limit myself to masturbating no more than once a day. On occasions, I would do it twice. On very rare occasions, maybe three, but that was really rare. Nevertheless, I've been masturbating almost daily since then. I never had any other problems except the occasional prostate soreness right after masturbating, which was usually gone in a few hours, or at the most, in a day.

Three months ago
My masturbation habits have continued being pretty much the same or maybe even decreased about a year ago, because I moved in with a woman with whom I was initially having sex thrice a week, and then suddenly dropped to once a month (japanese women, gentlemen...beware). I also didn't have much chance to masturbate because our apartment is not so big and there's not much room for privacy. Whenever I had the chance, I would masturbate once or twice at the most in a day. I also have to say that many times my sessions lasted quite a while (40-50 min).
About three months ago, I had a bit of a crazy night and ended up having sex with another girl (please don't judge me, it was a mistake...). Shortly after, I had a couple of business trips to different parts of the world, and this is when symptoms started getting more regular and slowly escalating.

During the first trip, I masturbated a bit more often than regularly, and on the last days started feeling that I was not completely emptying my bladder when urinating. This has been a common feeling before right after masturbation, but this time it was accompanied by a slight burning sensation somewhere along the urethra. The discomfort didn't lasted long, but it continued repeating for the following days. Once I returned to Japan, the pain had evolved a bit. I started feeling some minor pain extending to my right testicle and along the right leg - I started suspecting an STD from the woman of that crazy night, even though I had used protection. I started to seriously get worried, so I decided to go see a general doctor. He took a urine sample, said nothing was abnormal and sent me to see a urologist. The urologist did the same and found nothing wrong. I was checked for STDs and asked to call back a week and a half later. I was prescribed no medication at all.
During the following weeks I decided to give masturbation a rest. I was convinced that it was probably soreness caused by the excessive activity. The discomfort disappeared almost completely a week later, and I decided to masturbate once. A few days later, the burning sensation returned. I told this to the doctor over the phone when I called to know the results of the STD check, but he said all was fine with me and that my symptoms were quite normal for a man. He closed my case. That was about 3 weeks ago.
Then I traveled again for another week. The discomfort was minimal. I masturbated once in the middle of the week, then returned to Japan. The morning after, I rode my bike for about 10 km. I don't bike regularly, and almost every time I bike, I get butt pain for about a week and then it's gone. This time, i've had butt pain for more than 2 weeks. Aside from that, I didn't have any other major symptoms, although the burning sensation was not entirely gone. At that point I was already being careful with masturbation and trying to do only once or twice a week. I did it twice that week, and shortly after (last week) symptoms really started escalating.
I started feeling a lot of pain in the butt area and the muscles in the groin, extending to the legs and the gluteus. Sometimes, I could feel pain extending in the direction of the urethra, and my penis felt oversensitive. If I massaged the muscles around the groin and the gluteus, I could feel some pain. Seating for extended periods got really uncomfortable as I could feel pressure in the groin area, and I felt the constant need to change my position on the chair. It was last Friday (3 days before writing this) that I started feeling the urge to urinate, but almost nothing was coming out, and if it came out, although not dripping, it was definitely not flowing with the usual strength. This past weekend was so uncomfortable. I had the constant feeling that my bladder was full, but my body was somehow not asking me to go to the toilet and release, you know, like when you know you have to pee and are consciously holding it - I was not having this sensation despite drinking plenty of fluids. Yet, if I went to toilet and tried, some pee was coming out. Usually after urinating a could feel relief for some time, but the same feeling returned a few hours later.

Today
Today I went to office. I sat down and I felt so uncomfortable. I was feeling a lot of pressure in the groin area. I felt I had a full bladder, went to the toilet to see if I could urinate, I did a bit, but the feeling was still not gone. I tried this several times in the lapse of three hours because the discomfort was a lot. Then I started to feel my legs a bit numb, and that's when I got all paranoid thinking that my bladder or urethra was blocked by the inflamed prostate and that I would die, so I ran to the hospital.
They did a CT scan, a urine and a blood test. Urine and blood tests came out completely normal. Even the numbers in the blood did not point to any inflammation anywhere.
In the CT, the doctor did notice that the prostate was a bit inflamed, but he said my bladder showed completely empty after doing the urine test, even though I still had the sensation to have some remaining. He then diagnosed what I was thinking all along: Chronic prostatitis.

It seems that, just as it happened to many of you, my doctor also has no clear idea of how to deal with this. He initially said very confidently that if my prostatitis was acute, I would be having fevers and be in much worse condition. He also initially said that no antibiotics would be needed, but then changed his mind and this is what I was prescribed (I'll put it in Japanese and then in roman letters).

セルニルトン錠 (Cernilton) : He mentioned that this medication has proven to have good results for many patients.
レボフロキサシン (Levofloxacin): just antibiotics.

I'm supposed to take both for a week and come back for check up. The first one is three times a day after each meal, second one only once a day in the afternoon.

I took my first dose as soon as I arrived home and felt asleep. I woke up, and surprisingly enough, the pressure/pain in the prostate seems to be almost gone. But I don't want to get too optimistic yet because this pain has been back and forth for the past week. However, I still have the sensation of a full bladder, even after urinating. I can only guess that the whole area around the prostate is irritated somehow and it's probably causing this feeling. Also there's the case that I seem to get some relief after defecating or just passing gas...which I can't explain. My intestine is not in the best shape either, I regularly have constipation and acidic reflux, so I have thought this might be a case of IBS somehow affecting the whole area. Although I still suspect the excessive masturbation is what causes this in my case because the symptoms were somehow always coming after it, but this time they seem to have gone much farther than before.

Anyway, now I seem to be in this boat with you. I send you all my prayers and wish you all a quick recovery.

I will provide an update of my situation next day.


Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:48 pm
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a word of caution...be careful with the Levofloxin. If you feel any tendon or joint pain, report it to the doctor immediately as this class of antibiotic can have long term side effects in certain people. You should also look into Pelvic Physio therapy - not sure what the options are for this type of treatment in Japan, but worth a try. Also take a look at Uptown Mike on youtube for CPPS stretching routines you can start incorporating into your daily life.


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WS1234 wrote:
a word of caution...be careful with the Levofloxin. If you feel any tendon or joint pain, report it to the doctor immediately as this class of antibiotic can have long term side effects in certain people. You should also look into Pelvic Physio therapy - not sure what the options are for this type of treatment in Japan, but worth a try. Also take a look at Uptown Mike on youtube for CPPS stretching routines you can start incorporating into your daily life.


Thank you for the advice. I will keep it in mind. Will also check the Pelvic Physio therapy!

Today's report

Last time I reported that the groin pain was almost gone some hours after taking my first dose of Cernilton and Levofloxin, but that the feeling of a full bladder was still there. What I did not report, is that a couple of hours later I noticed that also that full bladder feeling was close to gone. I was feeling normal again. This definitely lifted my spirits up, as I was already expecting this to be a long term, and maybe untreatable condition.

I woke up this morning feeling amazingly well. Very close to normal. I took my third dose of Cernilton and went off to work. As usual, I spent a lot of time sitting down. I started feeling some discomfort in the groin at around afternoon, but nothing too serious. After lunch I took my fourth dose of Cernilton and second of Levofloxin. A few hours before leaving the office I started getting a stinging pain around the groin area, every time in different spots. Once closer to the gluteus, another one extending to the leg, one more behind one testicle, another along the penis, and some others in the lower abdominal area. They were very instantaneous and mild pains, nothing too serious. Now i'm at home. I took my fifth dose of Cernilton, and I'm feeling really, really close to normal. Nothing to compared to what made me go to the hospital in the first place.

I'm really wondering if this is truly the effect of the medication or if there's definitely some placebo effect, or if this might not even be chronic prostatitis. I also have to say that for the past month I've been going through a personal problem that's been causing me very high stress levels. Last night I got some really good news about that. I'm not sure if the stress reduction could also have an effect.

So far, so good. I hope things continue in the same direction. I haven't masturbated in about a week, but I'm too scared yet to try, and have almost no libido anyway.

I will post more tomorrow.


Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:29 am
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Today's report

No changes today. No pain, no discomfort. A very normal day. In the past two days I was very conscious of the problem and was constantly scanning in the background for any strange feeling, but today, at some point I completely forgot about it. I have not masturbated yet and I don't feel the need to (it's been a week). Maybe I'm just scared. I don't want to relapse. I'll continue taking my medicines and see how this develops.

Thanks for reading.


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Yesterday's report

I couldn't update yesterday due to some circumstances. Yesterday was all normal, almost forgot about this condition. At night, I masturbated for about 40 - 50 minutes, but didn't ejaculate - I decided not to. There was not so big discomfort while masturbating, but I did feel my prostate slightly inflamed, no different than when I masturbated in the past. A few minutes after masturbating, it all returned to normal.

I woke up this morning feeling normal too. But once I arrived to work, I started feeling again this pressure in the groin when i seated. IT definitely felt like the prostate was inflamed once again, and a bit more than last night. By noon, the pain had decreased a bit. Then I took the medicines, and I believe it is still decreasing now, but can still feel it. I can also feel the muscles surrounding the prostate like pulsating a bit. Let's see how a feel tonight, I will post a short update.

I'm not really sure if I should ejaculate. Somehow, the pain always seems to comeback after masturbation. Maybe that's the problem. I don't want to ejaculate and be miserable again in the following days.... but then I also want to prove that that is not the problem. If that's the problem, my sexual life will be in trouble.


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I think that masturbating till the edge for 40 or 50 minutes is not a good idea if you have prostatitis. It can make the prostate more inflamed. And the worst thing is that if you are trying to abstain from ejaculating that is going to make you feel the urge to ejaculate the next hours or the next day.

I have tried a lot of times one week of abstinence and the symptoms usually tend to improve. I wonder if a longer abstinence could cure this but I never have the patience. When I do those weeks I try not to masturbate at all. I think that not masturbating at all is better than masturbating till the edge. Even if you don't ejaculate, you are making the prostate tense and the fluids are moving inside. If there are pathogens inside that can be awful.

By the way, do you feel weaker orgasms? To me that is the worst symptom of this. Sometimes, even I don't feel pleasure at all when masturbating, just a burning sensation in the penis and perineum, which doesn't hurt at all, but somehow "kills" the pleasure.

I also lived in Japan, 9 years, and I suspect that this health problem started there. Maybe changes in the environment makes our bodies more vulnerable to pathogens. And Japan is a very toxic place, unlike most people think in the West. Another 9 years have passed since I came back from Japan and I'm still suffering this condition.


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Chavalote wrote:
I think that masturbating till the edge for 40 or 50 minutes is not a good idea if you have prostatitis. It can make the prostate more inflamed. And the worst thing is that if you are trying to abstain from ejaculating that is going to make you feel the urge to ejaculate the next hours or the next day.

I have tried a lot of times one week of abstinence and the symptoms usually tend to improve. I wonder if a longer abstinence could cure this but I never have the patience. When I do those weeks I try not to masturbate at all. I think that not masturbating at all is better than masturbating till the edge. Even if you don't ejaculate, you are making the prostate tense and the fluids are moving inside. If there are pathogens inside that can be awful.

By the way, do you feel weaker orgasms? To me that is the worst symptom of this. Sometimes, even I don't feel pleasure at all when masturbating, just a burning sensation in the penis and perineum, which doesn't hurt at all, but somehow "kills" the pleasure.

I also lived in Japan, 9 years, and I suspect that this health problem started there. Maybe changes in the environment makes our bodies more vulnerable to pathogens. And Japan is a very toxic place, unlike most people think in the West. Another 9 years have passed since I came back from Japan and I'm still suffering this condition.


Thank you for the comment. Yes, I also think that masturbating until edge is not good for me. I mentioned 40 or 50 minutes before, but there's been times when it's been longer than that.

Regarding the orgasms, I hadn't masturbated since this problem started a week ago, I was too afraid. But I finally did it last saturday and today.

On saturday I was so nervous, but I really wanted to find out if masturbation was going to bring back the symptoms that now appeared to be gone. I honestly didn't get much pleasure out of it as I was extremely nervous, especially during the ejaculation I was just praying that nothing painful would happen. And nothing painful happened, it was ok. Only thing I did notice, was that my sperm was more watery, very different to the usual sticky and thick consistency. I don't know if this has something to do with the one-week abstinence or the medication, or the diet (I've been eating slightly less). The really good thing was that none of the symptoms came back even after masturbating. I had a normal weekend.

Now's monday morning, and I've masturbated again. I was a little bit less scared this time and it was more pleasurable. Semen was again a bit watery, but not as much as before. I hope to feel ok for the rest of the day.

And today is one week being on medication. Many of the symptoms have disappeared, although every now and then I get a stinging pain somewhere in the pelvic floor that comes and goes in a second. In a few hours I'll have a follow up session with the doctor. I think the next step will be trying to remove my medication and see if I can still be ok.


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Today's report

As I said in my last post, I masturbated this morning, painlessly. I wanted to confirm again whether any symptoms would return or not. Some symptoms returned, but they were still very manageable. This time I didn't have the golf ball feeling, it was more like some muscles in the region were a bit tense, sometimes extending to the legs. The tip of my penis also had a mild burning feeling during almost all day. Then all the symptoms slowly started to fade away after 7 pm or so. Now I only feel some tension in some muscles. It feels a bit as if I had ridden a bicycle and had a few sore muscles in the pelvic floor, but not too annoying.

Also, this morning I visited my doctor and he removed the antibiotics. Now I'm only going to take Cernilton, 3 times a day, for the next 3 months, then go for another check up.

And one more observation. I've noticed that when I drink alcohol basically all signs of discomfort disappear. Anybody has had a similar experience? Could it be that it relaxes the muscles in the pelvic area? Or could it be that I just sort of numb my brain and pain receptors?
How about stress? Would you say stress had something to do with the tightening of the pelvic muscles? My stress levels were quite high a couples of weeks ago, and I'm doing better now, but some stress is still there.


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Today's report

Today's been a bad day guys, I'm so sad. I had a relapse. All day was feeling like a had a full bladder, but not really urinating. I especially have this feeling while seating. When I stand up or walk, the discomfort is much less. It's only been one day without antibiotics, and today the cernilton doesn't seem to have done much. However, I do not have the golf ball sensation.

I was reading today that fungal infections can also be a cause of prostatitis. Actually, I've had a rash in my butt, close to the anus and in between the buttocks. It's been there since more than a year ago, but it was not so annoying so I ignored it. However, this year it's become really annoying, I find myself scratching a lot of times throughout the day and also at night during my sleep. I've never been to a dermatologist and I'm planning to do so soon but, do you think there's a possibility that having a fungal infection there can make its way to the prostate? Would fungal infections show in a urine test or how can it be detected?

Please let me know what you think.


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Do you sleep in a "futon" and on a "tatami"? I had those problems in a dirty guest house while living in Japan. The itchy anus was unbearable and I suspect that the prostatitis problems started there. The "futon" and the "tatami" were very old and dirty, they had a lot of dust and who knows what else.


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Chavalote wrote:
Do you sleep in a "futon" and on a "tatami"? I had those problems in a dirty guest house while living in Japan. The itchy anus was unbearable and I suspect that the prostatitis problems started there. The "futon" and the "tatami" were very old and dirty, they had a lot of dust and who knows what else.


I've been sleeping in a clean bed (I know it's clean because japanese women clean the thing almost daily) for almost a year, but previous to that I was sleeping in a futon that I acquired new, but was not washing frequently. The itching started a little bit before moving to japan when I was living in the U.S., but it got much worse once I arrived here... and I ignored it for so long. How could I discard the possibility that my prostatitis is related to a fungal infection? Is it possible to know by a simple urine test?

And let me just give a small update still from yesterday. Actually, after the relapse yesterday, all my symptoms slowly disappeared after arriving home, but I remember that some pain in the buttocks remained. Again, like if I had sore muscles from doing exercise. by the time i went to bed, i was feeling normal. i woke up feeling very well today. it's 9 am and still no discomfort of any sort. Let's see how it goes for the rest of the day.

At this point, I've observed the following:
- Symptoms come and go randomly, regardless of how recently I had taken my medication (cernilton)
- Most of the times, symptoms occur while at work, when I'm sitting at my desk. When I'm at home or elsewhere, symptoms gradually disappear. Weekends are usually symptom-free.
- There is no one single and specific symptom. Various symptoms occur very randomly, usually one at a time, as if taking turns. Sometimes it's a mild pain in the head of the penis or around the groin, like when someone pinches you with a needle. Sometimes it's a burning sensation in the urethra. Sometimes it's tensed muscles in the groin area, like they are about to cramp after doing exercise. Sometimes it's the sensation of a full bladder. Sometimes (but less frequently) it's the golf ball sensation in the groin.

I will update later. Hopefully this is not a bad day.


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When you go to Japan your body suddenly gets a total environmental change. I remember when I arrived there, I got stung by a tiger mosquito and my arm got swollen a lot, like an allergic reaction. Maybe bacteria and fungus are the same. Maybe our bodies are not used to that environment and our inmunological system is more vulnerable to some of them. That is what I think.

I'm sure that this thing started in Japan in my case. I also had the itchy anus and the burning in the prostate. All of that started there.

You can be tested for fungus with the glasses test (Meares and Stamey test) but it's not sure that if you have a pathogen it will appear in your samples. I got tested for fungus and none appeared, but some bacteria did appear, mainly enterococcus faecalis. If I were you I would go to an urologist and ask about doing a culture. However, identifying a pathogen doesn't mean that you will get cured. Some pathogens are very difficult to eliminate with the drugs they use. I'm still struggling with mine. But at least you will have a grasp of what is happening in your body.


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Chavalote wrote:
When you go to Japan your body suddenly gets a total environmental change. I remember when I arrived there, I got stung by a tiger mosquito and my arm got swollen a lot, like an allergic reaction. Maybe bacteria and fungus are the same. Maybe our bodies are not used to that environment and our inmunological system is more vulnerable to some of them. That is what I think.

I'm sure that this thing started in Japan in my case. I also had the itchy anus and the burning in the prostate. All of that started there.

You can be tested for fungus with the glasses test (Meares and Stamey test) but it's not sure that if you have a pathogen it will appear in your samples. I got tested for fungus and none appeared, but some bacteria did appear, mainly enterococcus faecalis. If I were you I would go to an urologist and ask about doing a culture. However, identifying a pathogen doesn't mean that you will get cured. Some pathogens are very difficult to eliminate with the drugs they use. I'm still struggling with mine. But at least you will have a grasp of what is happening in your body.



Thank you. I will ask my urologist about this if things don't improve over time.

Today's report

Yesterday was all fine for the first half of the morning. In the afternoon I got again that sensation of full bladder, although not as bad as before. Just kind of annoying. I could get some hours of relief every time I went to toilet. Finally, at about 5pm, the sensation went away completely by itself. So random. Some of the symptoms have been evolving though. Now the issue seems to be more related to tense muscles around the groin, with some mild pain extending to the legs. My butt muscles hurt a lot yesterday, like the kind of pain you have a day after going to the gym for the first time and doing sit ups and butt exercises. Then at night the pain also went away. I even felt brave enough to masturbate. This time I had a very hard erection, it was very enjoyable, and my semen returned to the normal consistency that I was used to before all this started. Then I went to bed, I noticed that muscles in the groin started to get slightly tense. Prostate seemed to be fine. I could sleep with no problems, but I was worried about next morning.

This morning I woke up feeling really good, with no symptoms at all. It's 10 am now, I'm at the office, and still feeling quite normal. Even thought I have some relapses from time to time, I feel that overall things are slowly improving for me, so I feel a bit more optimistic.

New observations:
- Pain now occasionally happens in the muscles around the groin, sometimes extending to the legs and my buttocks. This morning, I noticed a one millisecond pain extending all the way from my buttock, through my leg, ending at the heel!
- The chair at my office is so uncomfortable. When I sit at any other place I feel completely fine, but this chair makes my butt hurt and I have to be moving all the time. I don't know if I can blame the chair for my symptoms since everybody else in the office is using the same chair model but they don't seem to be having such a hard time. Maybe I should get a cushion?
- I have noticed that shortly after drinking coffee in the office, I get the full bladder feeling. Could it be coffee irritating my bladder? I usually drink it black. I'm giving up coffee from today.


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Yesterday was the best day ever since all of this started. I didn't have the full bladder feeling all day. Muscles around the groin still feel a bit tense, legs too, especially in the joins to the pelvis. Chair was not as uncomfortable as before. I am feeling almost normal. And I say almost, because I still have a bit of an unnatural feeling in the groin that it's very difficult to explain. It's not pain. I guess the best way I can describe it is like "numbness", but it's also not exactly that. It's like something is ringing down there at times... The pain in the buttocks continues .... I can't find the relationship. But anyway, the important thing is that I've gone from not being able to sit and pee and having a continuously inflamed prostate, to almost having no symptoms. I'm again able to focus on my work and on any other activities and even temporarily forget about my condition. I woke up today, and still feel the same way. Nevertheless, I continue taking cernilton religiously.


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It's been almost a week without updates. I have both good and bad news. First the bad news: Symptoms returned. Good news: I'm strongly believing it's all caused by stress.

what happened is that something really unfortunate occurred last monday. It made me feel so, so stressed. And yes.... the symptoms came back. Not the inflamed prostate, but that feeling of a full bladder that will not empty when i pee and discomfort in the groin muscles, buttocks and legs. Also, i have to go to the toilet and sit, and then to consciously relax the muscles. Then some pee will come out. And if i wait another while and try again to relax again (like doing some sort of meditation), some more pee will come out, and so on, until i feel my bladder is empty. After that, i was getting temporary relief for a few hours. This repeated all week, and just until yesterday started to feel better, especially after I left office and had some drinks with friends. I think this explains why when i drink alcohol the pain seems to go away. it's probably because it relaxes me. I also noticed that stretching really helps.

So today morning i was feeling fine. I even masturbated, and all was good. Later i met with my now ex-fiance to discuss about our relationship. I was expecting good news, but quite contrary, she dumped me. It was almost instantaneous. I could feel how the pain in the pelvic area was coming back. I was honestly about to have an emotional crisis, and then i started feeling how some muscles in the buttocks wanted to cramp. The full bladder feeling returned. I felt i needed to stand up and walk, so we got the check and headed outside. At that point, I had the realization that it was stress what was causing me this pelvic discomfort, probably affecting surrounding organs such as the bladder or the prostate. I realized that I would have to be really serene about the situation or I could make my symptoms worse than ever. As I walked outside, i tried to relax, to take things more calmly, to accept the situation. After one hour of walking around and accepting the situation, i noticed that my symptoms had slightly decreased. Then I returned home and on the way back talked to some friend on the phone to let out a bit of the sadness. It really helped. I did some stretches, and the discomfort has reduced significantly (still have a painful butt, very close to the backside of the legs, below the buttocks).

So, guys, there it is. I think my case is all about stress. It's also a big coincidence that this all started getting really bad right about a month ago when my ex-fiance decided to temporarily move out and I was left with no idea of where our relationship was going. I was extremely stressed, close to brain meltdown. And as time passed and some things were getting better (or so i thought..) my symptoms also reduced. I hope it's the stress, and I hope i can cope with it now that i've been dumped.


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I don't want to disappoint you but I think that life in Japan for a "gaijin" can cause a deep emotional trauma and chronic stress and anxiety. I was living there 9 years and all my problems started in that country. When I came back to Spain I had hyperventilation and post-stress traumatic disorder. I still haven't recovered from that but fortunately the hyperventilation is gone.

It's very stressing to see how the Japanese laws and people treat always you as if you were inferior and no matter how hard you try learning their language, their customs, etc., you are always a "gaijin". Add to that cocktail the environmental change, new bacterias, new mites, new toxic stuff which maybe your body is not used to cope with.

If you search on the internet you will find a lot of people complaining about those things.

And about the girl that dumped you, I feel sorry for you and I can understand very well what is that like because I also have got dumped by some Japanese girls. Sometimes they just dump you without explanations and that is very traumatic. I think that most of them don't take the "gaijin" seriously, it's embedded in their "culture", which is highly xenophobic and classist. Most of them would like to have a sexual adventure with us but they don't want to involve in a serious relationship and much less marry, because we are not Japanese, we are "aliens" (that is what they write in our "gaijin" card, remember).

Sincerely, I have come these years to the conclusion that today's Japanese modern life and another cultural factors have made that country very sociopathic. When I read about psychopathic disorders I remembered how many people I met in Japan like that. They could fake they were your friends and the next day they would attack you in group viciously or just dump you. That creates a very deep emotional trauma in sensitive people, like me.

Specially two Japanese girls have left in my heart very deep wounds. Specially one, who I loved so much and I still can remember how she leaved me coldly. There is not a single day that I don't remember that. They are very utilitarian, they don't seem to love us as we do. I know that someone reading this would think that this is "generalization", but remember, 9 years living there and I didn't meet any girl that were different to that. At some degree or another they seem to have some sociopathic and narcissistic tendencies. I want to make clear that this is not racism, because I think that that is cultural and not in the race. Simply, Japan is a sociopathic culture in which if you don't act sociopathic you get destroyed by predators. And girls are no different, no matter how childish and "kawaii" they may look like.

Japan is bad for your health and for your prostate. That is my conclusion after going through this hell. I hope the day my heart/mind ("kokoro") wounds will heal completely from that and also my prostate and sexual functions, which got destroyed after the humiliation which I beared getting dumped again and again not only from girls, but also from the ones who said to be my "friends". So, if you are a sensitive person like me I recommend you to leave Japan, indeed. It's not a country for sensitive people, and worse if you are a "gaijin", which makes you the target of all kind of bullying, emotional abuse, "ghosting", contempt, and the worst thing is that nobody will understand you, never.


Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:40 pm
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Hello Chavalote.

I'm really sorry that you had such a bad experience in Japan. My experience hasn't been nearly as bad as yours. I moved to this country exactly 3 years ago (actually, tomorrow is my Japaniversary), but my relationship with it started more than a decade ago as an exchange student (probably the best moment of my life). At that time I made very good friends that always kept in touch with me even after I returned to my home country, and who continue to be my friends now that I live here. I like Japanese culture, I think it fits my personality for the most part, although I do agree that there are some intricacies that are difficult to understand.

Last year brought many changes to my life, which I think are now having an effect today. I was promoted at work and the level of responsibility increased a lot. Not only that, but at the end of last year I was assigned a new boss that made my working life extremely stressful. Thank God he was transferred to another department just a couple of weeks ago and the new boss seems to be a lot better.
Last year I also moved in with my now ex girlfriend in a big leap of faith. We had been dating for less than a year and I thought it was a quick move, but she really wanted to live together, so I trusted in our relationship and agreed to it. First six months were all love and happiness, but this year we started having a rough time. I made mistakes, she made mistakes, and our relationship slowly started spiraling down, maybe much more than I was at first aware of. I gave her a weeding ring just two months ago and she accepted it, and three weeks later we were having a big argument that ended up with her deciding to take a break from us and to return to her parents' house. And that's exactly when all hell broke loose for me. The first two weeks were incredibly hard. Tension levels skyrocketed to a level I hadn't experience before. I just couldn't bear with the thought of losing my fiance just when a few weeks back I had been imagining spending a lifetime with her. We kept in touch and met from time to time. Things appeared to be moving towards a reconciliation, so my tension levels decreased and so did my prostatitis symptoms. At that time I couldn't find a connection, I thought it was the medicine doing its magic. But I started noticing that every time we had an argument and that our path to reconciliation took steps back, my symptoms immediately returned. The clearest and most obvious example I have until now, was just last saturday. I could literally feel my muscles tensing as she was breaking up with me.

It's been only one day after that, but I think I've handled the bad news much better than I thought. The final result makes me sad, but it also lets me acknowledge the situation and start progressing through the stages of grief. It's a much better situation than staying in the limbo. My emotions are still like a roller coaster, though. There are moments when I feel very optimistic about the many options I still have in life and there are other moments when I only see myself in an endless dark tunnel. And I've noticed that my symptoms move along with my emotions in the same way.

Now that I have narrowed down the source of my pain to stress, yesterday I decided to get more serious with stretching exercises. Uptown Mike's videos are a godsend. I also started with meditation. I'm hoping that my emotional state can return to bearable levels soon, and that my prostatitis (or should I say CPP?) disappears. Maybe even some psychological therapy could help me grow out of this sour moment in my life.

Anyway, I'm very sorry that Japan didn't work for you. I do believe this country is not for everybody and very few are able to stay here more than a couple of years. That's not necessarily a bad thing since we all have different values, and the japanese have their own very specific values too that differ from the west greatly. I have (still) a very successful career here, so moving out of Japan would not be an easy option for me right now. I'm still hoping that I can have a happy life here and would like to try a bit more.


Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:38 pm
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hello forum. here's another update.

Today's was a perfect day in regards to symptoms. I've been handling my personal situation much better than I thought. Somehow my sadness has been shifting more towards anger and disappointment. My anxiety decreased. Today I was so busy at work that I could barely think about my most recent misfortunes. And this means that I had no symptoms at all, all day, like being back to normal.

Then the twist. My ex decided to come over to our place and stay the night. Not because she's trying to reconcile but because she needed clothes and it was already too late to catch the last train back to her parent's. I really didn't want to, but she started to talk about us, which then evolved into a bit angry discussion. Anyway, it's very stressful to argue with her. She just won't listen and denies all i say. Very frustrating. So at the end we went to sleep in separate rooms and I noticed that I had some tension back in the pelvic zone. Recently, the way it feels is that the area feels like shaky or weak, even part of the legs to, close to the joints. It's as if the whole area lost strength. There's also some minor sensation of wanting to urinate, but if I go to toilet, nothing or almost nothing comes out.

For me, this is another clear proof that stress is the root cause of my problem.

Now i'm back in the living room, trying to calm down and sleep. Hopefully tomorrow I'll wake up feeling ok. The bad news is that tomorrow she also staying here and we'll most likely talk about our issues again. And even worse than that, we'll travel together for the next ten days (we booked the flight tickets long time ago and can't cancel them, so we agreed to go as "friends").... God bless me.


Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:03 pm
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Hi Forum. Another update after a couple days.

I think I’m cured. I’ve been going without symptoms for 5 consecutive days. I know it’s still a short time, but I’m hoping that it won’t comeback.

Triggers for stress have been very high. I have been traveling together with the ex. I had a glimpse of hope that could get back together, or at least she had told me there was a slight chance. I was feeling very positive of the outcome because before the departure and during the long flight her behavior towards me was almost like in the old days. I think that this was keeping my stress levels low, therefore no symptoms.

However, after only one day in our new destination, without any clear or apparent reasons, she confessed to me that our relationship had no chance to recover. We started talking about the last steps to give closure, such as clearing any debt between each other and moving her things out of my place. It goes without saying that this brought back huge amounts of stress and anxiety. Additionally, I’ve noticed that she seems to be texting with somebody whose name I’m not familiar with, so she might as well have started seeing other guys. Anxiety at the highest peak, even now as I write this, I can’t bear to be in the same bed as her well knowing that today’s the last day of our trip and that it might be the very last one.

Despite all this, my symptoms have not returned at all. All functions are back to normal it seems. It’s important to say that I’ve also masturbated regularly since then, with no pain or flare ups. Also, I’ve accidentally skipped a lot of my cernilton doses during the trip because I’ve forgot to bring them with me when I go out. So also seems like the medication has no effect anymore. Well, I’m the hell of a situation, at least I have that going for me, and I should definitely be thankful.

Tomorrow I will be going back to japan and resume my daily routine. If any symptoms return, then I would have to pay attention to my lifestyle in japan, as the root cause might be there. I’ll keep you updated.


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