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Hello All -

What I am going to write today may help a lot of us who have been suffering from this serious problem. While I know everyone's case is different, hopefully my experience could be useful to some or many of us....
I have suffered for 1.5 years now. My intentions are not to judge anyone but to ONLY help us all in our journey of recovery! I am NOT fully cured (almost there!) but have in most of the aspects over-powered this nonsense and am on the road to full recovery with my determination and willpower....

Very briefly, few important points:

1. I am 35+ man who is still single. Last GF almost 6 years ago...and probably that's where I got entangled into this nonsense when I started masturbating more frequent. But my frequency was nowhere near as compared to people who have either mentioned the same in this forum or maybe few other forums I have read. But probably I was watching porn for longer hours and not masturbating properly...maybe i used to press the penis during ejaculating and hence not fully ejaculating out the semen...

2. I Do NOT Drink, Smoke, drugs, no coffee or tea also...I know seems like I am good man...but then we all are!

3. My symptoms HAVE ONLY been frequent urination...NO pelvic pain, or painful urination. Though for the first 3-5 months felt a very bad burning/hotness sensation constant throughout the day and debilitating, and after any nightfall/ masturbation episode even worse feeling of hotness and frequent voiding (16 times/ day initially).

4. I have the greatest luck of my father being a homeopathy doctor, which definitely have helped in recovering faster I believe. He has provided his best work!....

5. My urologist has no idea what could have started this...but he says if at times semen keeps going back in the body and didn't getting ejaculated properly that may cause some inflammation in prostate. But what western doctors do NOT realize that in some way over/ incorrect masturbation is NOT healthy. And my urologist said that my continuation should in no way aggravate the situation (WHICH IS NOT TRUE as I found). The only med he gave me all this time is Flomax. And his PA even said to masturbate regularly. I tried for a month and my condition was worse after every masturbation.

So what has cured me to a greater extent? My recovery path was a trying many things as time progressed, but I will come straight to the main solution -

1. STOP Masturbating....and I mean At ALL! I am clean for the last 1 year (out of the 1.5 years) and that has helped big time.

2. My father's homeopathy meds...if couldn't cure, really helped in recovery as I was only taking those meds initial 4 months. Flomax later helped to some extent in controlling the urge to urinate. Though after taking everyday for 1 year, I have dropped the dosage to only once every 2 days. This helped bringing down urination frequency to 6-7 times/ day.

3. Take natural non-inflammatory products and herbal tea. I started drinking 1 glass (250 ml) of warm to lil hot water with 25% or little less of teaspoon turmeric (2ice a day). Eat garlic (natural anti-biotic) and ginger in food. Herbal teas - chamomile with honey.

4. MOST Importantly - What took the recovery from lets say 90% to 98% (which is VERY crucial) is the following-
ISHA Foundation (a spiritual practice non-profit organization) - Famous guru named Sadhguru (and he is no quack, I have lived my life as an atheist, and i can tell you this man is a stronger human...watch his videos on youtube). They have a 4-day Inner Engineering program (ISHA Kriya) which entails few yoga postures and amazing breathing techniques (Kriyas). This I have done 2 times a day (it takes 35 mins for one session of ISHA Kriya), and in just last 3-4 months have changed my life! They also have meditating techniques which will SURELY help.

Also as already a decent Yoga practitioner myself, I have found few good Yoga postures specific to cure this condition (another great guru BKS Iyengar Yoga) which I have now added with this ISHA Kriya. And I am on a roll! Now I can tell you most of the times I feel healthy in that region. I can take 3-4 quick succession nightfalls without impacting my urination frequency. Though when I tested with more # of quick nightfalls (by watching porn in the day), I found that creates some irritation...but man the recovery from that state is very fast!!!

I would also mention here that at times our stress and depressing mindset during this period will also add to this suffering, so pls allow yourself to heal. I know most of you can not have access to step 2 above, but still step 1, 3 and 4 MUST help you improve...Also, try to live a sober life for sometime...And find a good partner (who are single like me) and keep the sexual relationship off for sometime (if u already have a partner)....

This is my Journey...I hope all of you will find your peace. Let's fight and win this battle.


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Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:36 pm
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Sorry to say this but I feel I must be honest here. No one "guru" or yoga is going to cure this. That's all a bunch of BS. I know what I'm talking about because I was going to an ayurvedic doctor like one year and he only blamed me for "thinking too much" when the one to blame was him, who couldn't even grasp that my problem was a chronic prostatitis and couldn't cure me. I write this because I think that the part of the above comment which says that the "guru" was the most helpful thing can be misleading, specially to desperate people.

I would advise people to stay away from "gurus" and ayurvedic doctors to cure this because they will only take your money. Ayurveda and yoga may help in other mild health problems but not in chronic prostatitis.


Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:20 pm
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Chavalote - first of all I am sorry to hear that your issue didn't get cured with what-so-ever doctor - ayurveda or otherwise - you may have seen.

But you should READ my statements carefully before rejecting a point and/ or de-motivating people on any thing, just because it did not work for you. We are all in pain, and Yogic techniques with a proper way of living has helped people for centuries...
1. I mentioned very carefully WHAT were my symptoms.
2. I also mentioned this may help or be applicable to some of us.
3. I payed (300) one-time for the Inner Engineering program...doubting things myself...but coming from a family practitioning Yoga for so many years, I know and have first-hand experience of what these techniques are capable of. And I have during all these months while religiously practicing the technique ONLY seen progress, some of which was ONLY after starting these practices. As I said, I also added few specific Yoga postures that also would have fasten the recovery.
4. I only mentioned about Sadhguru so that people can first hand watch some of his talks and clarity of his thoughts. He seems to have identified a Kriya which is powerful. BUt it also depends on your dedication, focus and positive attitude.
5. Your so called educated western doctors seem to have no idea about how and what can be done for this issue.

So, again, I wish you and rest of the fellow humans all the best.


Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:32 pm
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I got disappointed by western modern medicine doctors years ago. It's true that they don't know the causes of this and they can't cure it with their old methods (antibiotics, etc.). But that doesn't make the so called "alternative doctors" good. I say this because it's a common used fallacy. Just because western medicine doctors don't have any clue about a health problem, or because they are not being honest, or aiming only for money, or whatever reason you can say, that doesn't mean that a "guru" knows better what to do.

You know, I'm pretty tired of feeling like a ping-pong ball between "western medicine" and "alternative medicine" without no results, or even a good explanation about what is happening with my body. I think that that is a false dichotomy, the real one to me is "doctors who only care for money versus doctors who care for health and people". I have seen a lot of doctors in alternative medicine as psychopathic (if not more) as the western medicine worst doctors I visited.

I hate the pseudoskepticism and the scientism, that belief that only western modern science can come with the right answers. But I'm also tired of scams and "gurus" taking advantage of the western modern science crisis to make money with BS.

Some of us have been with this condition for more than 5 years. To me saying that a meditation or yoga "guru" or "positive thinking" can cure this is almost insulting.

I'm here because I need real answers, not "gurus" talking on Youtube about meditation, yoga and "positive thinking".


Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:28 am
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I tend to agree with chava.

Problem is everybody is very different, some people find no sexual activity helpful others say it is essential to their recovery. And there is a lot of success stories out there which are the placebo effect or regression to the mean with alternative medicine. Then you have scientific medicine where all they do is throw antibiotics and pain killers at you so this is a big problem. Neither system is very good.

I am also stuck in between I went to a homeopath for prostatitis and he practically cured it but ruined my nervous system even more. I would never recommend homeopathy to anyone because of this. These people sell these things as safe but sumtimes they are far from safe. I think the way forward is more scientific investigation of alternative medicine but that isn't going to happen anytime soon for us. So I'm left testing herbs on myself at the moment based on traditional knowledge mainly.

I've been doing yoga and meditation for years, but they never cured any physical disease unless you count my stiff back, haha. I'm not a big believer in the guru thing especially when they want money off you for 'inner transformation'.


Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:37 am
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Hey Chava and Chris...some very important points you made. But then that’s the life we all humans have created for ourselves where majority of even the doctors are playing for money and not for human service.
Still all of us in some way can mostly share and are limited in our personal experiences. I will again humbly mention that you may not have come across the right so called alternative doctors...

My father has in so many years have cured many people with his knowledge and dedication of homeopathy where people did not require immediate attention for their ailments. I have many examples on the positive side compared to your skepticism. Also, I have seen my own mom recovering quite well from osteoarthritis with the help of some specific knee brace but also using consistent Yoga and homeopathy. Doctors were amazed she never had any kind of pain associated with this problem.

But one thing Chava, for you to just discard my sincere comments and experience as mostly BS when I am myself fighting and doing all in my capacity to win this battle is rather more insulting. We all can play with words and keep trying to act smart, but truth can only come out with each of us having the experience directly. And yes, like some of the others who have recovered well from this, many have emphasized to really keep a positive attitude and commitment.

Anyways, we all have to figure out our ways to find the solution for this problem. I have recovered quite well using all the mentioned steps in my post. I came here with all the right intentions and giving you all a ray of hope. Those who want to take can work further with this. To rest my sincere wishes, because I know this is a real fight...


Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:35 am
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Yes Chris, that is the point where I'm now. Researching by myself and testing herbs and things by myself, because I don't trust anymore neither in western modern science nor in alternative medicines. I don't trust anymore on people who are charging money to cure you. And it has been a long way, I have tons of reasons to say this. I think that everybody must have a threshold to tolerate lies and abusive behaviour. How many times do you need to be fooled, lied and laughed to stop trusting anybody (or system)? My patience was big, but they reached my threshold the last year when I were on anxiety for months due to a bad experience with a psychopathic doctor. I got out of the office crying and he just laughed. That was a trauma to me. It has been 5 years of that kind of treatment. What can I think? Alternative doctors were not better.

I feel abandoned with this and I have lost my faith in this system. That's my sincere point of view. This system is built for money, not for people. And yes, the same goes for the "gurus". If they are charging money for you to "elevate your soul" or whatever then they are BS. It's that simple. Like I said in another thread, and this is a strong blow to western modern science, I'm in a point in which I would trust a tribe shaman who does his best without charging money rather than any doctor who ask for money after the consultation. To that point has western modern medicine system disappointed me.

I'm now eating shii-take because the other day I noticed changes in my sperm and a little improvement of my symptoms so I'm currently on this. I'll share here for you all if something works without charging money or sending people to see links of brands or whatever. We need honesty when we are talking about health.


Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:14 pm
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You can do whatever you want Chava...Somehow you think that you have found the perfect recipe of what makes life tick. I wish you all the best. I still have ONLY right intentions for all of us to recover hale and hearty from this.

My ONLY point, everything on this earth has been impacted by money. I also do NOT want to pay anything for 'elevating my soul', but just like NOT paying money does NOT make a guru teachings great, just like paying money to a doctor does NOT make him/her great, so we have to understand that when we are all going through pain, we need to try different things out. I tried and it is working for me great. I sincerely wish we all get strength to conquer this nonsense.
I rest my case.

BTW - My father is distributing Homeopathy meds from the last 45+ years FREE to the people. For him that's a way of austerity to transform people's lives.


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As for what works and what doesn’t it’s only important to share what worked for you. Then people can try it if they think it might help or keep searching. I have read numerous posts on this forum about supplements I would not personally spend money on but I try not to dismiss anything knowing it’s always possible it could help someone. It’s important to remember several people could be having similar symptoms caused by completely different things. So although someone may find relief the rest might find it a waste of time. Regardless all we can do is share and leave it up to each person to research it to find out if it’s right for them.


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I think that is my main problem with alternative medicine people is that the industry is driven by profit. There may be a few doctors giving away free homeopathy, then well very good, but there aren't any I've seen around here. The naturopaths/ homeopaths/ chiropractors just treat everyone who comes in for any reason and most of the time it doesn't work well, but it is their job so they just do it anyway.

I like the NHS in this country because the doctors they just want you to get well and it is free, there is no necessity to do a treatment on some one just to feed your family or go on holiday this year. But, then the pharmacuetical companies basically own all their medicines and that too is based on profit. Most of the time they are not really helping chronic illness much and have a lot of bad side effects and addiction potential. So we are stuck inbetween two bad systems, maybe it is better in China or somewhere, who knows. I was going to a Chinese doctor, but in this country they charge 50 pounds a week for herbs, 50 pounds for consultation, and the tea stuff tastes like a puddle.


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chris85 wrote:
(...) we are stuck inbetween two bad systems (...).

That is my point. But I would say that there is a third toxic system here: the "gurus" of "positive thinking", "meditation", "yoga"... who make profit from desperate people. We are living bad times indeed. It's very difficult to find truths in a world of lies. I have been searching for the cause to this condition for more than five years and I still don't know it. That should tell us something about the "society" in which we are living.

I would like to check medicine from outside this civilization (outside a money profit based system) but it's impossible to me now. I think that those tribes from Africa who found that the yohimbe (that herbal medicine that is banned from Spain because it competes with viagra and cialis) is helpful to boost the libido, would help me more than any urologist to understand what is going on in my body. And I'm saying this totally seriously.

And to Rocky, I have not found anything and that is the problem. I'm still almost like the first day. But I do know what doesn't work, what is false, and that is at least something that I have accomplished in my search journey.


Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:58 pm
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When the decision was reached to dump prostatitis into the CPPS category that pretty much slammed the door on research into causes or treatments. The focus is now on managing the condition. Not that I enjoy being the bearer of bad news but it’s very unlikely anything is on the horizon to help people with this problem. If you can’t be helped by antibiotics or some sort of physical therapist you’re for the most part on your own.


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Madcap wrote:
Not that I enjoy being the bearer of bad news but it’s very unlikely anything is on the horizon to help people with this problem. If you can’t be helped by antibiotics or some sort of physical therapist you’re for the most part on your own.


I disagree. There are people who have been cured by using phages and people who got a lot better by using phages. Just because you didn't get better doesn't mean others can't. They're actually developing an enzyme that they get from bacteriophages and developing it into a drug that can destroy bacteria and biofilms within minutes. These enzymes are called lysins. It's going to reach the market within 5-7 years.

They're in phase 2 clinical trials right now. And it is unlikely that bacteria can develop resistance to these enzymes, they say it would take about a hundred to two hundred years for the bacteria to learn how to develop resistance to these enzymes, so that's something to look forward to. Right now the only alternative to that is using bacteriophages, assuming the problem is bacterial which i think most cases are in my opinion. Unlike antibiotics, phages don't attack the good bacteria in our gut flora, they only attack specific bacteria and phages aren't known to have side effects.

On top of that, they can make phages in suppository form and they can inject the liquid down the urethra to get it into the prostate directly. The only problem with phages is that people think just because they are considered viruses then they might be dangerous but they are viruses that only kill bacteria, they don't infect and kill anything else. And they're naturally occurring so they're pretty much every where, even in your body. You can't say that there is nothing that works when you haven't exhausted all your options yet. That kind of thinking discourages people from trying something new that could ultimately lead to them being cured or a major reduction in their symptoms.


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Oh yeah your totally on your own, but it is like that for many chronic illnesses. Because Western medicine isn't good at treating chronic illness on the whole. I'm not convinced phage therapy will help that many people with chronic prostatitis as I think often it is not a bacteria causing the disease. I serious doubt their ability to ever cure a high % of chronic prostatitis from their angle all together.

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that herbal medicine that is banned from Spain because it competes with viagra and cialis


Well that is what they are trying to do with kratom and CBD now in the U.S. in the interests of 'public safety'. Even though on the whole they are helping people staying away from worse stuff. Meanwhile, scores of people are dying from manufactured fentanyl and Jeff Sessions thinks anyone with chronic pain should just take an asprin and deal with it.


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Please point out where I say nothing works? Studies and trials are just that, nothing more until they are in use. There are people who get better every day from a variety of things, and many who get better for no reason at all. I’ve probably had 10 or more flare ups in the last 20 plus years and recovered from each. When I say you are on your own with this condition that is true unless you are fortunate enough to respond to what’s available now. I’ve been fortunate to find supplements to help when I’ve needed it, and I have shared those on this forum. I discourage no one here, and I hope we see better treatments. Until we do I stand by what I said, not your interpretation of it.


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Chris if the FDA in the United States had their way they would control the distribution of Vitamins. Government here has already inserted itself between Dr and patient by controling what and how much a Dr can prescribe. Refils on prescriptions were common years ago but now you rarely get them. Kratom is as good as banned in this country. It’s only a matter of time before they shut it down. As you mentioned many use it to avoid something worse but the FDA doesn’t care. They only care about control, and if they don’t have it they simply recommend a ban. People here are being slowly stripped of their right to make decisions about their health and bodies and it’s been going on for a long time.


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[quote="chris85" I'm not convinced phage therapy will help that many people with chronic prostatitis as I think often it is not a bacteria causing the disease. I serious doubt their ability to ever cure a high % of chronic prostatitis from their angle all together.[/quote]

There are a lot of cases where bacteria is causing the inflammation and there are also cases where the bacteria couldn't be identified, but that doesn't mean that there is no bacteria. That's why it's important to have a PCR test done as it is a more reliable way of testing for bacteria. There are probably cases where there is no bacteria even with the PCR test but I think those cases are a small percentage. You can't say something doesn't work on the basis that the cause is not usually bacterial. You don't know that. I was diagnosed with "nonbacterial" prostatitis for years until I finally had a semen and prostate fluid culture done and they found bacteria. Of course phage therapy won't cure the small percentage of people that doesn't have a bacterial problem but I think that if most people with prostatitis get tested thoroughly (semen, EPS, urine after prostate massage and then PCR test), most of them will find bacteria in the prostate. Don't be so quick to make conclusions about what doesn't work for others when you don't know what tests they done or haven't done.


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Madcap wrote:
Please point out where I say nothing works? Studies and trials are just that, nothing more until they are in use. There are people who get better every day from a variety of things, and many who get better for no reason at all. I’ve probably had 10 or more flare ups in the last 20 plus years and recovered from each. When I say you are on your own with this condition that is true unless you are fortunate enough to respond to what’s available now. I’ve been fortunate to find supplements to help when I’ve needed it, and I have shared those on this forum. I discourage no one here, and I hope we see better treatments. Until we do I stand by what I said, not your interpretation of it.


You said "Not that I enjoy being the bearer of bad news but it’s very unlikely anything is on the horizon to help people with this problem. " Sounded like you were saying nothing works, but I apologize if I misinterpreted.

Well, studies and trials gives you hope that they are actually working to fix this antibiotic resistant problem. After phase 1,2, and 3 of trials you can pretty much get a good idea of whether something is safe and effective. It's something to look forward to and not lose hope since I know of many chronic prostatitis patients who failed using antibiotics.


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I think autoimmune and muscleoskeletal problem driven prostatitis are common. Quite what percentage, I wouldn't like to speculate. I would say about 50% of people that come on this forum have prostatitis that started with a sexual encounter at a guess. People keep turning up and saying all prostatitis is bacterial they just haven't found the bacteria. I just don't believe that.


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Again, no one is talking about gurus!!! The importance is of the process or program which has surely helped. And if some of you think that Yoga is bogus than you are kidding yourself with your lifestyle and choices: There have been clear success stories of yoga and meditation. Even some other people in this forum have mentioned that in their stories of recovery. Neuroscientists have proper research backing that and about the neuroplasticity of brain...

But yes, I can give you that I can not segregate my recovery to any specific practice. Maybe the homeopathy made a bigger difference. Maybe I am clean for 1 year without masturbation that helped...But then even after all the recovery that sensitivity which I used to feel many times and frequent urination after any nightfall...I can not deny the reality that improved many folds after I started practicing the Kriya. A process and sequence is very important in yoga to cure an ailment.

Anyways, to all my brother skeptics - I have nothing to gain here. I came to share my journey of a good recovery from this REAL issue we all are facing in our lives. I wanted to provide any ease from this debilitating nonsense.

To other brothers - make sure you try and experience yourself before rejecting anything!

Strength of the mind and willpower has cured many...I will end this finally by saying a great quote from Shawshank movie - Get busy living OR Get busy dying.

Good luck to all of you.


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A quick question to the community - Is there a point of taking Flomax even after 1 year? Or how long people think that it can be safely taken and then discontinued?

thanks


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Yoga and meditation can't cure diseases. If it were that simple most of us wouldn't be here. Yoga and meditation may help people to deal with them but that's all. I'm not a materialistic person and I'm very critical about the western modern science, but saying that yoga and meditation can cure a chronic prostatitis is a nonsense. It's even misleading. I hope no one spends money in yoga or meditation to cure prostatitis because it will be a waste.


Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:23 pm
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If the nervous system is the problem, yoga and meditation can definitely be an important component of recovery.


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Chava - I have nothing more to add to this discussion. If you choose to live in your own world of suffering and egotism, that's up to you.. Please stop making generic statements WITHOUT reading and understanding what someone is suggesting. Please STOP now discouraging people with your statements. No one is asking ANY advice from you on what to do or what NOT to do. People can decide themselves. I sincerely wish you good luck.


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And BTW Chava - I also never mentioned anywhere that I am 100% cured...I have shared my journey of faster recovery.......But with the pain I have gone through in the last 1 year, and the steps I took to return to the normal state or a state where I can live with it in a controlled manner, more so with a warrior attitude, I believe I can share my journey with my fellow humans.

When we all are suffering, it is important to keep trying from all proper available choices. Some choices may help more than others. Some may be not that effective. But we have to try.....and fight like a warrior.

I do NOT agree with your statement - "Yoga and meditation can't cure diseases..... Yoga and meditation may help people to deal with them but that's all....I hope no one spends money in yoga or meditation to cure prostatitis because it will be a waste."

We spend all our money in nonsense supplements and doctor's visit month after month, and you are telling me that if we can spend ONE-TIME money for an effective Yoga process and some postures, that allows us to live in a controlled manner with this ailment in some months (and that's enough for me to NOT consider this a waste!)...and maybe later who knows even help us to transcend this misery completely, you think that's nonsense!!!

Good luck to all. Make sure you all read what has been shared with you, and take an informed decision with a cool mind. Again, I am just a normal guy with no other intentions but to help, and am speaking from my own first-hand experience.


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