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Post New member - accident using prostate massager
Hello group,

My symptoms started in the end of July after forcing prostate massager (similar to Aneros) device out from my rectum. I simply panicked by the fact that something is stucked on my rectum and I can’t get it out. Reason for it being stuck was probably because water-based lubrication was dried out. I didnt reInstead of going to the ER - I grabbed the end of the device and started pulling until it popped out. There was no pain or blood during or right after removal process.

Couple of hours later severe pain started in anus and rectum. In few days, pain spread to perineum, scrotum, pubic area, penis, lower stomach. Top of my buttocks and gluteal cleft have agonizing burning sensation which is made worse by sitting on a hard surface. There’s random electric shocks on my pelvic area. Also noticed diminished (not lost) sensation on anus and skin around. Severity of pain fluctuates throughout the day. Objective findings made by a doctors so far have been small superficial scratches 5-6 cm inside rectum and prostate was really painful during examination. Frequent urination, but no urine/fecal incontinence. Blood/urine screens, lower back MRI, cystoscopy, bladder and transrectal prostate sonograms were all normal. I can void my bladder completely.

I’m currently on a sick leave from my daily work and in total misery. I had no previous medical conditions. Worst symptom is burning type pain is in my anus and buttocks area My thought is I have caused irreversible nerve damage :(


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Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:48 am
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Post Re: New member - accident using prostate massager
I would try to relax. It seems you scratched/irritated the inside of your rectum which as expected will be painful for a little while until it heals. Hemorrhoids or fissures are similar and take time to heal. As long as you didn't cause an infection I'd think you'd just have to wait it out.

As far as prostatitis - maybe you bruised it in your panic while trying to remove the device? And I'm guessing now that you're panicking about it that you're subconsciously tensing everything up down there which is exacerbating symptoms.

This all just sounds like it's due to a minor injury you've caused and it'll probably heal in time. For now you need to just try and relax and wait it out. I'm assuming you've never had any problems down there before this accident - it must've been up there for quite a while if the lube dried up? Lesson learned on that one I guess.


Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:14 pm
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You probably created a fissure or two, or irritated an existing one. Those burn when defecating, at least from what I have experienced. They tend to heal up though within a month or two. Just make sure you have soft stools, and don't eat acidic or spicy things for a while.


Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:19 pm
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Good evening prostate454,

And thanks for your supportive reply.

Prostate massager was there for less than half an hour. But it was obviously less than my lube could handle. I have no history of prostatitis or STDs (I've been lucky so far)

I'm not going to give up, but worried because severe pain has lasted over a month now without any signs of improvement :(


Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:40 pm
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Hi,

It's me again. Since my accident I have had constant need to urinate especially when walking. Wonder if anyone here have same problem as I do?


Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:31 am
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FireInTheHole wrote:
Hi,

It's me again. Since my accident I have had constant need to urinate especially when walking. Wonder if anyone here have same problem as I do?


You know, your whole situation might be a good case study for us. Since based on your story it's pretty apparent that it's not bacterial and most likely just due to blunt force trauma from your massager. If it's been bothering you a month then it just goes to show how long it can take for the prostate to heal from any sort of injury, and could very well explain why those of us with infections take f.o.r.e.v.e.r to heal even following tons of antibiotics.

The urination sensation is probably due to inflammation of the prostate or tightness in the PC muscles pressing up against your bladder. That's pretty typical of this condition. You stated that you never had any issues before - do you mind if I ask why you were using the massager in the first place then? Was it for sexual function? When I bought my aneros to try massaging mine (didn't help), it was marketed heavily for sexual pleasure.

Please do keep us updated on your progress.


Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:21 am
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Hey. We all have a wide variety of different symptoms that are broadly related. I get some discomfort when walking and sitting sometimes. Other days it is fine. I had urinary issues at night when it was all kicking off a year ago or so, but it got better with time, it took several months. Like the other guys have said, try to relax and it probably will settle down, I used to use a hot water bottle when it was bad.


Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:53 am
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Case study, huh. Well, I have not managed to find a single similar story like mine from the web so guess I'm good candidate for that. I find it hard to believe that I'm the only human being who pulled a dried sex toy out from their rear. :)

I tried the massager simply for sexual pleasure. I was lured by countless reviews and testimonies on the web how you can achieve hands-free orgasm with these type of devices.

I've booked appointment to next week with physiotherapist dealing with male pelvic pain issues. Hope she can help me.

My PCP suggested I should try gabapentine for pain, but I'm not comfortable with idea taking it because of possible side effects. Although, I know some people have benefit from using it. From natural remedies, warm sitz baths seem to provide instant help and when I'm driving I keep seat heaters at max.

Thank you guys for your support.


Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:14 am
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sounds like a neural wind up that will take a while to settle down.
Just do not over read the internet too much and diagnose your self with scary diagnoses, like the others said, RELAX, calm down, take some strong pain killer and as hard as it sounds you need to forget about the pain and distract your self.


Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:54 am
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I've started seeing a physical therapist who's specialized treating pelvic pain + urinary/bowel issues.

Today was my 3rd visit. On prior appointments, she has massaged my pelvic floor muscles internally and externally. And yes, it was really weird at first to have someone putting their index finger to your rear, but I'm now totally comfortable with it. I have pain in the pelvic floor and rectum gives direct access for your therapist to muscles causing it.

While she was working with me this morning, she said that there's some tightness on the left and posterior aspect of my levator ani muscle (that's the hammock shaped, thin muscle surrouding the anus) I totally agreed, because the burning pain was increased immediatly when she was working with the edge of that muscle while putting pressure on it. She paused there for a moment just holding fingers firmly on the painful spot and I felt that the pain starting slowly to "melt" away. After she progressed to the right side of that same muscle, it felt remarkably more relaxed, softer and pain free compared to the left side. I was kind of amazed that she was able to pinpoint the pain on my rectum. She also instructed me to place a tennis ball just above to anus (towards scrotum) and simply sit on it for a moment. Based on her experience, this streches levator ani muscle and relieves pain. Maybe it's too early to say, but I just might have met the person who knows what she's doing and might be able to help me.

I haven't noticed any long term difference yet on my symptoms, but it might just take some time. However I'm going to keep seeing her for a while.


Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:22 am
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Had my first cystoscopy today.

Procedure was just uncomfortable and quite embarrasing. Only moment I had severe pain was when fiber entered prostate area. Urologist said it further supports his prior diagnose. Otherwise everything was normal which is good. And it was somehow intriguing to watch live feed from inside. Reminded me from scuba diving documentary I watched while ago :)


Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:57 pm
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FireInTheHole wrote:
I've started seeing a physical therapist who's specialized treating pelvic pain + urinary/bowel issues.



While she was working with me this morning, she said that there's some tightness on the left and posterior aspect of my levator ani muscle (that's the hammock shaped, thin muscle surrouding the anus) I totally agreed, because the burning pain was increased immediatly when she was working with the edge of that muscle while putting pressure on it. She paused there for a moment just holding fingers firmly on the painful spot and I felt that the pain starting slowly to "melt" away. After she progressed to the right side of that same muscle, it felt remarkably more relaxed, softer and pain free compared to the left side. I was kind of amazed that she was able to pinpoint the pain on my rectum. She also instructed me to place a tennis ball just above to anus (towards scrotum) and simply sit on it for a moment. Based on her experience, this streches levator ani muscle and relieves pain. Maybe it's too early to say, but I just might have met the person who knows what she's doing and might be able to help me.

I haven't noticed any long term difference yet on my symptoms, but it might just take some time. However I'm going to keep seeing her for a while.


During a visit to one of the several Urologists I have seen over the years-- when I was having a major flare, when this uro was doing the obligatory prostate exam, He manipulated this same spot -- I guess near the levitaor ani muscle. although he didn't say. The Uro didn't do this for any length of time. Coincidentally just as you state, the pain went away. The pain stayed away for 3 or 4 hours then slowly came back.

After reviewing a lot of info on the world wide web, and this prostatitis forum, I think this is bacterial, either from an externally induced source or internally induced source causing sufferers of prostatitis to clench their muscles, or mechanical in that something is out of line in our anatomy causing a nerve trigger point and prostate pain.

I truly believe my case is caused from an internally induced source of bacteria - either from the gut, or uric acid crystals forming in the prostate from some metabolic/metabolism issue causing calcifications in the prostate, and bacteria collecting around these calcifications. Then the bacterial infection causing me to unconsciously clench muscles causing the nerve pain.

Right now my symptoms are gone, and PSA is low--. Thank god. When I have prostatitis pain, my PSA is high.

I do believe if my pain was only due to a muscular issue and I were to have pain my PSA would be low.


Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:16 pm
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4th PT appointment yesterday. She gave me electric treatment using EMS with rectal probe. I was sure it would hurt like hell, but there was absolutely no pain. When it was switched on at lowest setting there was only warmth and slight feel of pressure in rectum. She increased the current and I felt only faint pulsing sensation. Nothing dramatic like I expected it to be. During manual therapy she pointed tightness in levator ani muscles again so no development on that since my last visit.

My sensations vary from feeling uncomfortable to moderate burning pain in rectum and cleft area. I can escape from severe pain by avoiding prolonged sitting.

I'm still devastated by this and can't help thinking how long this is going to last. I was never thought getting injured like this using a sex toy.


Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:46 am
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Since last Friday I've had a constant ache on the right hand side of the gland and penis shaft. Never had this before explicitly on other side. Hurts even more after passing stools. This is just a nice little extra beside my burning pain in anus and pelvic floor which have haunted me for almost three months. :x

Could prostate cause such clearly one sided pain? Is my dick withering off and die?


Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:28 am
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it sounds more like the muscles surrounding the area as if there constantly tense and playing with the nerves running through your pelvic floor.

I had an urge to pee constantly but it was due to a abdominal and pelvic floor floor tightness.


Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:45 pm
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Since last week my symptoms have gone worse...

In addition to constant rectal, buttocks and perineal pain, I'm now experiencing dull ache on the tip of my penis and burning sensation in urethra. Also my urge to urinate has come back after being absent for many many weeks. From my perspective, these new symptoms started almost synchronously one week ago. Possibly this is result from not seeing my PT for more than a week. Previously Ive seen her once in a week for last two months. I wanted to see if it makes any difference if I skip one visit. Looks like it did.

I was seeing a new Dr from the private clinic who has focused on treating sexual disorders/dysfunctions in men (my PT recommended him). By the papers he is clinical physiologist, not an urologist. After describing him my medical history his first thought was that prostate may have got infected through small scratch in rectum (caused by forcing prostate massager out). That scratch was also seen in anoscope 3 months ago when I hit ER first time.

Dr said he can't understand why other docs prescribed me drugs like Lyrics and Cymbalta as they wouldn't help me.

Based on his hypothesis, he would like to start 1 week course of cephalosporin antibiotic accompanied with Cialis 5mg. If abx is working course is continued for two weeks. When I asked him should the infection be already detected from several blood/urine screens I've done earlier he said bacteria in the prostate cant be reliably detected by those tests. Well I can't argue with that.

Ive never before took Cialis or Cephalosporin abx and little concerned about side effects. However I'm feeling really hopeful first time for months that I just might get better!


Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:52 am
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Well from personal experience I can tell you the Cialis will definitely have an effect. It may not help your prostatitis....but it'll def have an effect lol.


Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:16 pm
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prostate454 wrote:
Well from personal experience I can tell you the Cialis will definitely have an effect. It may not help your prostatitis....but it'll def have an effect lol.


Maybe I should warn Mrs before taking the first pill :D


Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:08 pm
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How many of you who had prescription for abx had a PPMT (pre post massage test) ? I asked about this test from my dr who prescribed me cephalosporin abx. He sound surprised and told me this is the first time he hears about it during 30 years of practicing medicine. I can't believe he said that. After all this guy is one of the most famous Drs treating sexual disorders in my country (Finland).

I would like to have insights like how accurate this test is and did you started abx despite the result?

As always I'm very grateful of all your advice.


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