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Author:  Sceves9 [ Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Why prostatitis is on the rise

People who say that you should masterbate more to cure prostatitis are dead wrong. It's just basic logic to assume that the incidence of prostatitis is on the rise because people are masterbating more. This is primarily due to easy access to porn and misinformation that it's healthy to masterbate as much as you want. It is healthy to masterbate every so often but I know in my case that my prostate gets inflamed and hurts if I masterbate too often. If I abstain for a few days, the pain starts to alleviate and I have to urinate less frequently. I'm actually starting to sleep through the night again.

Try abstaining for at least a week and see if this temporarily cures your prostatitis. If so then you have your answer.

Author:  prostate454 [ Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

Oddly enough I'm very open about my prostatitis among friends and colleagues at work and I've yet to meet a single other person who has had it! My dad had prostate cancer but he was treated and cured about 15x faster than what I've gone through.

Anyway, ejaculation does flare mine up sometimes, other times it makes it feel better though. I once went a month without any ejaculation and the first time I did it again I was back to square one completely...and the symptoms never went away while on my drought. If I were to ejaculate every day then it would inflame it, but I stick to no more than every third day.

There's no way it's the cause of my prostatitis, and abstaining certainly isn't the cure, but it does play a part in day to day symptoms. I believe that's probably true for just about everybody. Otherwise prostatitis would be most common among 17yr old boys!

If you're able to rub one out so often that it causes prostatitis then I want you to share the secrets of you libido with me.

Author:  JoeW [ Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

Dr. Polacheck was insistent that ejaculation every other day was important for treatment. Personally it doesn't seem to make much difference to me one way or the other. If I overdo sex my prostate can feel sore for the next way or so but that is not the same as chronic prostatitis.

Author:  Inflamed [ Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

A lot of this probably comes from unprotected oral sex. If you think about it, oral bacteria are introduced to an area where they're not supposed to be introduced. Some men are asymptomatic due to strong immune systems. Other men have symptoms immediately, or shortly thereafter. Combine that with antibiotic resistant bacteria and you have a recipe for disaster. Unprotected vaginal sex is like roulette, oral probably is as well, at least at this point.

Author:  chris85 [ Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:04 pm ]
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Abstaining from ejaculation and diet are the main two ways I control my prostatitis. If I am a good boy it calms down and then I can enjoy myself.

Why is it increasing? Especially in younger men? Probably a several reasons, but one is immune systems are more screwed up than they used to be because of lack of natural lifestyle. We sit in offices so don't get enough vitamin d, exercise, we eat unhealthy food, and live in squeaky clean environments with few microbes.

Author:  LabMonkey333 [ Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

Inflamed wrote:
A lot of this probably comes from unprotected oral sex. If you think about it, oral bacteria are introduced to an area where they're not supposed to be introduced. Some men are asymptomatic due to strong immune systems. Other men have symptoms immediately, or shortly thereafter. Combine that with antibiotic resistant bacteria and you have a recipe for disaster. Unprotected vaginal sex is like roulette, oral probably is as well, at least at this point.


I think you're right inflamed. The problem is that these bacteria from oral sex cannot be identified it seems. I believe this is how mine started and my tests are all clean with no infection found. How do we even determine what antibiotic to use if it can't be cultured? Maybe this type of infection passes over time after the immune system does its job.

Author:  Inflamed [ Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

Mine started that way as well. If it's bacterial, it can be cultured, just have to utilize the right types of culturing. That actually seems to be a huge ordeal as some doctors really don't know which cultures to run, or even how to perform an EPS.

Author:  Inflamed [ Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

It is also very possible that prostatitis can occur in those who have never had intercourse of any kind, as we've seen a few cases of that very thing. There could be any number of reasons for it, which is why all avenues should be thoroughly investigated if suffering from the condition. In doing so, eventually we'll hit on something that works, or possibly just heal up naturally in the process.

Author:  teaking [ Wed Aug 24, 2016 5:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

I agree with alot Chris said, I would go further with the deficiency side our diets have changed and our water our soils are depleted the nutrients we took for granted we are now lacking I would add magnesium, possibly zinc as the main minerals and as Chris pointed out vitamin d and I know he's a strong believer in omega 3 which I also agree with being an essential fatty acid. All of which affect our immune systems and inflammation, especially when cortisol is high which is worse in stressful situations.

I would also say some people's condition worsens due to medication containing fluoride such as some antibiotics when there is no infection, as the problem is a deficiency the fluoride lowers magnesium even more which causes more symptoms and lowers vitamin d conversion.

I want to say I believe where infection is present antibiotics are needed.

I would also say more things are determined as prostatitis and if more conditions are combined now you have more people in the group showing a huge increase.

Author:  LabMonkey333 [ Wed Aug 24, 2016 7:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

Inflamed wrote:
Mine started that way as well. If it's bacterial, it can be cultured, just have to utilize the right types of culturing. That actually seems to be a huge ordeal as some doctors really don't know which cultures to run, or even how to perform an EPS.


I've had EPS tested twice now and there's no white blood cells or pathogens that could be identified. The lab at UWMC is one of the best in the world. If mine is a bacteria it must be a ghost because it cannot be cultured.

Author:  Inflamed [ Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

That's interesting, have you tried a semen culture? They found enterooccus in mine, but were unable to find that in my EPS. In my EPS they found coagulase negative staph.

Author:  JoeW [ Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

It takes 3 or 4 prostate massages on separate days to get the bacteria to work their way out of the prostatic acini down the prostatic ducts into the urethra. see: http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... 545.x/full
For a good image of the acini and ducts see: http://prostatitisfacts.org/
Unfortunately a single prostate massage to get EPS to test is unlikely to come up with anything.

Author:  LabMonkey333 [ Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

Inflamed wrote:
That's interesting, have you tried a semen culture? They found enterooccus in mine, but were unable to find that in my EPS. In my EPS they found coagulase negative staph.


Dr Krieger told me they they don't do semen testing because the samples are full of contaminants and have not proven to be helpful. This is coming from a man who's been studying prostatitis for 36 years.

Maybe a bacteria can be identified through EPS after several massages as stated above. I really don't know. Currently I'm doing PT to see if it helps me. Just started with the internal PT and I seem to feel a little better today. Maybe I feel better from the sex I had last night. It's confusing.

Author:  Inflamed [ Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Why prostatitis is on the rise

Hmm. I can't refute that, but I could argue from the standpoint of try everything, at least if you're constantly suffering, what could it hurt?

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