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 Minocycline for Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis 
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Post Minocycline for Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis
Research shows that Minocycline is as effective as Cipro for prostatitis, especially from the staphylococcus variety of bacteria:

http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... ed/1093309

Another article, Minocycline 200MG twice daily was able to clear bacterial prostatitis in 15 days:

http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... ilot_study

Read the journal on the above site, you don't have to subscribe, or sign up.

Since staphylococcus bacteria was found in my PES, I've been taking Minocycline recently, all other antibiotics have failed. I am taking 100MG twice per day, I wasn't aware that double the dosage was more effective. So, I've doubled it as of today, hoping to finally be free of this. So far, I am a little better, but I won't be able to tell until 2-3 more days in of 400MG per day.

Side note, Minocycline concentrates well into the prostate, 16x better than other tetracyclines.


Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:35 pm
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I am having positive results so far with Minocycline, epididymitis has greatly reduced. I still have a little bit of urethritis after ejaculation, but it's barely noticeable. Also, my prostate feels less inflamed and I haven't had to take Flomax in a couple of days.


Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:44 pm
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Apparently I am allergic to minocycline, and doxycycline, as it caused interstitial nephritis to flare again. Time to try some alternative methods and hope I can get clear of this. It's really odd that I'm allergic, I must be the .000001 % of the general population. lol, ah well...back to the drawing board.


Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:25 pm
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It would be good if anyone else who has tried minocycline for prostatitis could report back in here because it has proven anti inflammatory activity and is used in rheumatoid arthritis therapy because of its ability to repress the immune system. It may be useful in both bacterial and autoimmune prostatitis.


Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:41 pm
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Post Re: Minocycline for Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis
There must be treatments less dangerous than the antibiotics. The last time I took an antibiotic I did it scared, because you read in the information pamphlet about deaths from liver necrosis or Steven Johnson syndrome, and you know the probabilities are very low but on the other side you think, anyone can assure that it won't happen to me? I felt like playing the Russian roulette, indeed.

Also, antibiotics are bad if we think in the whole humanity, because the bacterias get more and more resistant. A pharmacist told me "a few decades ago antibiotics were miraculous, you had an infection, you took them and you were recovered soon. Now there are a lot of resistant bacterias and it's much more difficult".

And I don't want to think that we must rely on something chemical to clean an infection. That doesn't make sense to me.

Antibiotics are useful in acute prostatitis, but not so in the chronic ones. Usually, there is a background problem causing a chronic disease. You can kill the bacteria over and over again, but if you don't treat the background problem you will be reinfected again. I think that as this example: Imagine you are in a hot summer with an opened window and mosquitos keep entering in your room. You can use something to kill them but until you don't close the window new mosquitos are going to enter. That's why we have a lot of cases in the internet of men talking about how this or that antibiotic relieved them a few weeks and then the symptoms returned again.

And not to talk of the non-bacterial infections such as fungus.

I think the western medicine must re-think some things again. Bacteria are not "enemies", nor cause of diseases, they are consecuences. They turn pathogenic because of bad habits or environmental problems. We need to find the causes rather than just keep killing them. There is a biologist that explains that very well but almost all his articles and videos are in Spanish, his name is Máximo Sandín.


Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:47 pm
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Post Re: Minocycline for Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis
Before the days of antibiotics people died of terrible diseases like the Black Plague and even just infected wounds. It is proven in the scientitific litrature that antibiotics can cure some forms of chronic prostatitis. Yes there are side effects of antibiotics, but all drugs have side effects, does this mean we shouldn't take any drugs and go back to the days of dying of the plague? Western medicine relies on science, a lot of people in alternative medicine will try and convince you they have the miracle answer, but they are usually just trying to sell something or are a bit crazy. I have spent a lot of money on supplements and herbs because stuff I read online, but none of this helped, in fact some herbs made my problems worse. This is what happens when people abandon science and rely on belief instead.

I think trying antibiotics for prostatitis makes sense as long as we don't overdo it and know that certain antibiotics are less dangerous than others.


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Thanks Inflamed. Please keep us posted on you results.


Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:24 pm
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The question is, what caused diseases like the Black Plague? Because the indians didn't have those (that's why they get infected easily when the colonists arrived).

I'm not talking about "beliefs", I'm just saying that western science have a lot of wrong dogmas that must be examined. I'm talking about understanding how nature and our body works instead of trying to manipulate things they don't understand.

Antibiotics may help in some cases, as well as surgery, but to me that reflects ignorance of how the body works and about the real causes of diseases. It's like killing flies with cannon shots.

I also want to make clear I'm not talking about "alternative medicines", I'm talking about seeking the truth of the phenomenoms, without no mechanistic or preconceived dogmas (like bacteria are enemies that want to destroy our bodies).

Western science is not neutral, it has a lot of ideology inside. We need to keep that in mind.

I mean, I'm talking about science, but true science, an science that searchs the causes and tries to prevent and cure the diseases from the root, and not to sell dangerous drugs that most of the times do more damage than what they repair.

No one specialist ("rational and scientific" as they are supposed to be) have been capable of answering to me anything about the cause of my chronic prostatitis (and another health problems).

I went to an ayurveda "alternative" doctor also and he also couldn't answer anything. To me they are the same. Both of two medical disciplines did the same thing, just trying if something works selling me pills. They didn't researched nothing about the causes (diet, life habits...) and when I asked questions they seemed upset. That has a name: ignorance.

But the difference between an ayurveda medicine and an antibiotic is that you can try the first and maybe it won't work, but it won't kill you or kill your cells. The second can.

Maybe the best option is to do the research by ourselves and help each other with forums like this. After years visiting them I can't trust doctors anymore, I can't trust a money oriented mechanistic and cold science. I'm looking for real knowledge, not a miraculous pill. I want to understand why I have this inflammatory process and not just trying to kill bacterias in my body randomly (with the risk of dying or get more sick in the process).

I have been almost two months on antibiotics and all have worsened, even I now have tremblings in my body and muscle spasms (I think the antibiotics destroyed some nervous or muscular cells and I hope they will get repaired eventually), and my prostatitis is the in the same condition as before. I can't call that "rational".

I don't care if the answer come from a western medicine specialist, an ayurveda doctor or a chinese medicine one, I will only believe the one that can explain to me what is happening with my body and specially in my prostate gland. I think that's the most rational way of thinking.


Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:00 pm
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Post Re: Minocycline for Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis
Chava, if you are taking Cipro, there are things you can to to alleviate the effects when you stop taking the medication. You can "de-flox". It is a bit of a process though and takes a couple of months at best.


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No, I didn't take ciprofloxacin, I was almost two months on trimethoprim/sulfamethoxazole and I quit it recently (I was taking it from November 3th to December 22th, I think).

The urologist basically told me this: "I usually prescribe an antibiotic cycle in cases like yours to clean all the possible bacteria from the prostate. The prostate has a low PH so there are only a few antibiotics that penetrate in it well. I usually give an 1 - 3 months of trimethoprim/sulfamethoxazole treatment first because that antibiotic penetrates in the prostate".

I quit it because I didn't experience any changes in my symptoms and my body was trembling in a weird way even when asleep, maybe due to some nervous damage or muscular weakness. Also I had some subtle tinnitus when I covered my ears and still I can sometimes feel them, but very subtly.

I thought that it wasn't the appropriate treatment in my case and also that it was damaging me due to the long term use. Originally, I thought that those kind of wide spectrum antibiotics should be used like 10 days only and I thought it was too much time, but the urologist kept saying that it's needed. I wonder though, what if my case is not bacterian?

I have searched what deflox is and it seems a treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia. The urologist said my prostate is ok, small, normal for my age. So I think my inflammation is not the kind that makes it swelling.

I'm going this month to see the urologist again and I think I will ask for another options because I don't feel comfortable about taking more antibiotics without knowing the cause. They don't know if the enterococcus faecalis that appeared in two of my analysis is the cause or not. Supposedly 10 days of erythromicin treatment I made several months ago killed it, but that time I didn't feel better.


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Chavalote I actually stopped taking trimethoprim after 2 days because the pain got a lot worse. I also couldn't tolerate cipro because it gave me insomnia, I wasn't sleeping at all. I agree their approach for treating this disease can be quite poor because they don't know what causes it. That's why I was interested in minocycline, because people take this for other inflammatory conditions e.g. rheumatoid arthritis, and I think it is relatively safe compared to cipro. They even are researching into using minocycline for depression because it has proven neuroprotective effects. There is a gentleman on here 'worldofxbox' who takes Flagyl, an antibiotic, regularly and claims this eliminates his symptoms 100%, but he has to keep taking it. At the moment I take naproxen and lyrica and that is working for me a fair bit, but not quite enough.


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I searched about minocycline after reading this topic thinking in giving it a try but I read the possible adverse effects in Wikipedia and I got scared. All the antibiotics are dangerous because they don't differentiate between pathogenic bacteria and the good ones, and they also can hurt or destroy tissues. We have millions of bacterias in our body adjusting the balance of it constantly.

And about the case of Worldofxbox, I'm reading his thread and it seems his inflammation is caused by some weird thing, he talked about protozoa. I suspect my case is also weird, caused by fungus or who knows. I think that because antibiotics didn't work and because usually, when I read in the internet about another people symptoms they are different than mine. I feel no pain usually, only a burning sensation when urinating/defecating and specially when ejaculating, and also a low libido. That's why I think the cause is different than a bacteria. But I don't know, nor the urologists.

If those drugs (minocycline and flagyl) where safety I wouldn't care taking them for just testing, but as I said, antibiotics are not a game, they are like a poison. All the drugs that have "anti-" are dangerous. That's why I blame the western science and I'm disappointed with the western medicine, because they don't know well the causes and all they seem to be able to do is trying different chemical poisons on the persons to try if someone works, and in the worst cases, surgery. And they claim to be "rational" but I don't understand how that can be rational.

I'm also disappointed with that bunch of "alternative doctors" who take advantage of people that is disappointed with the western medicine and desperate, and all they do is seelling stuff that doesn't work. I'm not saying that all alternative medicine is like that, I'm talking about the bad practices and the ones who scam people.

So, I feel in a catch 22 situation. Western medicine can't answer my questions, nor cure me; and in the other side you have a lot of scams.

I think I don't want to take more antibiotics, but I don't know what else I can do. I'm trying changing the diet as I said in my thread but I guess that won't be enough. I need a rational and reliable treatment but where can I find that?


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Post Re: Minocycline for Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis
Personally if I had your symptoms, I would just learn to live with it, try and get into meditation or something that helps you relax. I started with mild symptoms then tried to fix it, and it got worse, now I have pain a lot of the time instead of none of the time, but then again, maybe I got a bit unlucky. I think you need to be aware of which drugs are bad and which are not. Something like cipro is a more dangerous antibiotic, but an antibiotic like minocycline, many people take that long term of acne, with no problems - it is thought to be relatively benign.


Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:33 am
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Exactly, that's why I gave Minocycline a shot. I had a pre-existing kidney issue from something else, and I'm very sensitive to all medications as a result. However, the large majority of those who use Minocycline have zero problems whatsoever.


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Chris85, no strong pain is not equal to a less serious problem. I have been living with this maybe more than 10 years, with worse and better times, but always bad. And this thing is destroying my sexual functions and libido to the point I'm almost sexless. I can't have orgasms, it's like urinating semen with a burning sensation, my sexual pleasure is gone because if I touch my penis I feel a burning sensation in the prostate that affects the whole genital zone, penis and testicles. It's not an unbearable pain but it makes numb the penis, even if it's erect.

Just try to imagine living for years knowing that you can't feel sexual pleasure or orgasms. It's a big deal, I can't live with this anymore, that's why I'm researching all I can. If you want to know more about my case I suggest you to read my thread ("My story, chronic prostatitis associated with weak orgasms"). This is unbearable, believe me, I have anxiety and depression, and sometimes I think if I were told that I have to live the rest of my life with this I would like to die, but I try to maintain the hope and think that this problem will come to an end. Almost all the doctors don't know the importance of orgasms; they are important, they help us to relax our whole body and mind and if you can't have them, anxiety accumulates.

About meditation and so on. That's what my ayurveda doctor kept saying "relax, calm your mind, meditate". I ended feeling like he was blaming me. How can you relax having this? I think those type of doctors view the whole picture inverted. First, there is a somatic problem, and then you can't relax due to that, and not the opposite. It's not my mind what is causing this. In fact, a lot of anxiety and depression cases that are thought as "psychological disorders" have a somatic root.

About minocycline, I would like to try it, but I read some scary possible effects and I don't know if an antibiotic can help in my case, because it seems my prostatitis is weird compared to other people's cases I'm reading in this forum. I guess Inflamed's prostatitis is different from mine, so I don't have much confidence in that minocycline could help me.

It will looks like a dream if someday I find the right treatment and I get back my libido, sexual pleasure and orgasms.


Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:41 pm
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If your obsessed with your penis your whole life you'll never know freedom from suffering.


Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:31 pm
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Post Re: Minocycline for Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis
If you're not aggressive about treating yourself and trying every possible avenue out there, you'll only get worse. Antibiotics for chronic prostatitis typically take 4-6 weeks to work, sometimes up to 3 months. Generally there aren't pathogens found because doctors have no idea what to do in terms of culturing for a bacterial culprit, yet 95% of the users who come to these forums experience this nightmare after some form of unprotected sex. There are several tests that can be run for chlamydia and gonorrhea, yet they only run one which is the most common. Biopsies can also be performed in worst case scenarios if standard culturing fails.


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Post Re: Minocycline for Chronic Bacterial Prostatitis
I took minocycline for probably 5 years in high school for acne with no problems, it's routinely use for this and quite safe. Now that I know what abx do to your microbiome I would never had done this but at the time I was oblivious and I'm surprised they had me on so long and that I had no side effects. That's really surprising mino can do as well as such a harsh abx like cipro, I can't believe they use cipro as a first line for prostatitis if that's the case.


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I have been almost one month on Ciprofloxacin and no changes. The weird thing is that the two bacteria that they found in my last culture were sensitive to it, at least in vitro.


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