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 An Explanation and Cure for a common cause of CPPS - Update! 
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Post Re: An Explanation and Cure for a common cause of CPPS
Hi David88, thanks for this post, I'm a 25 year old guy in the south east UK, I had a bad bicycle fall in late December 2015 whilst on holiday in Gran Canaria, I landed on my low back, left hip, I was bleeding, could barely walk, got back home a few days later, was still limping, a week later got back to work, got better, felt fine, I'm a kitchen porter so I have a physical job. I have a scar on my left hip, low back, left elbow for life.

then in late March 2016 I got lucky and met a girl from Tinder for sex, our 3rd meet we had sex 3 times, 2 at night, 1 in morning, a day or two later I got discomfort/ache/pain in my pelvic/pubic area, it went away on its own after 5 days. Then in late June, I had sex with a Thai woman whilst on holiday in Thailand, again 3 times, the pelvic pain/aches and discomfort returned and this time it didn't go away.

of course my STD tests came back negative, semen culture was normal, MRI on low back showed nothing.

symptoms I've had are tingling on testicles and perineum, perineum ache, frequent & painful urination, stinging/burning in urethra and deep in rectum, Tinnitus, dull pain/ache in inner thighs, left buttock pain, upper back pain, pelvic ache/pain. my main symptom is the discomfort/irritation feeling in my pubic area. I can feel the tight muscles around my pelvic & thigh area's.

I'm currently seeing a chiropractor in Southampton who does SOT technique, he says my pelvis is unstable, misaligned, my left leg is shorter than my right, I have a sacrum issue, I also have posture issues too, he said that my pubic discomfort was coming from my pubis and thats the unstable part, he is currently trying to stabilize my pelvis and adjusting my sacrum, I have felt improvement, but the discomfort comes back, he said this is how it will be at the moment, it will go and come back, but eventually it will go away for longer and longer until the discomfort is gone completely. It is no quick fix. I've only had 4 appointments with him so far so its early days, I see him once a week.

I have decided to get a second opinion and will book an appointment with John Taberman-Pichler

thanks again, your post helped me realise that I will have to dedicate a year or more of my life to cure this, no holidays for a while.


Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:23 pm
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Post Re: An Explanation and Cure for a common cause of CPPS - Upd
Hi guys,

I've got what I feel is a very exciting update that I hope will help some of you.

We know there is a link between the loss of the natural arch of the foot and pelvic floor tension. As the foot collapses a variety of muscles upto the hip and lower back contract to stabilise the leg.

After years and years of work I have found that the Tibialis Posterior muscle, which is located behind your calf muscles and is attached to many bones in your foot, is largely responsible for flat feet. Even more than that, the loss of the arch will cause inflammation and swelling through the inside of your ankle where the Tibial nerve passes. This is a condition called Tarsal Tunnel syndrome. Irritation of this nerve can cause the muscles in your foot to become tight but I also feel that it sends a nerve signal all the way up your body. Your hip, lower back, neck and jaw will tighten. You may get sensitive hearing and find bright light difficult to be around.

So, for anyone who thinks they have fallen arches (over pronation), be sure to get some deep tissue work into the tendon and muscle belly of the Tibialis Posterior. While doing that it's also worth massaging the calf muscles and the Peroneal Longus/Brevis muscles.

For anyone who gets this worked on I'd love to hear your feedback.

I've just got the arch back in my left foot for the first time in 15-20 years and it feels great!!!!

Good luck


Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:55 am
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Post Re: An Explanation and Cure for a common cause of CPPS
JackT wrote:
Hi David88, thanks for this post, I'm a 25 year old guy in the south east UK, I had a bad bicycle fall in late December 2015 whilst on holiday in Gran Canaria, I landed on my low back, left hip, I was bleeding, could barely walk, got back home a few days later, was still limping, a week later got back to work, got better, felt fine, I'm a kitchen porter so I have a physical job. I have a scar on my left hip, low back, left elbow for life.

then in late March 2016 I got lucky and met a girl from Tinder for sex, our 3rd meet we had sex 3 times, 2 at night, 1 in morning, a day or two later I got discomfort/ache/pain in my pelvic/pubic area, it went away on its own after 5 days. Then in late June, I had sex with a Thai woman whilst on holiday in Thailand, again 3 times, the pelvic pain/aches and discomfort returned and this time it didn't go away.

of course my STD tests came back negative, semen culture was normal, MRI on low back showed nothing.

symptoms I've had are tingling on testicles and perineum, perineum ache, frequent & painful urination, stinging/burning in urethra and deep in rectum, Tinnitus, dull pain/ache in inner thighs, left buttock pain, upper back pain, pelvic ache/pain. my main symptom is the discomfort/irritation feeling in my pubic area. I can feel the tight muscles around my pelvic & thigh area's.

I'm currently seeing a chiropractor in Southampton who does SOT technique, he says my pelvis is unstable, misaligned, my left leg is shorter than my right, I have a sacrum issue, I also have posture issues too, he said that my pubic discomfort was coming from my pubis and thats the unstable part, he is currently trying to stabilize my pelvis and adjusting my sacrum, I have felt improvement, but the discomfort comes back, he said this is how it will be at the moment, it will go and come back, but eventually it will go away for longer and longer until the discomfort is gone completely. It is no quick fix. I've only had 4 appointments with him so far so its early days, I see him once a week.

I have decided to get a second opinion and will book an appointment with John Taberman-Pichler

thanks again, your post helped me realise that I will have to dedicate a year or more of my life to cure this, no holidays for a while.


Hi Jack,

Good to read your message.

I'd also recommend a visit to Andrew Croysdale at Project Me in Crouch End. He has been on an incredible journey with me and you will benefit from all the information and lessons learned over the last 4 years.

It's possible you landed on one of your SI joints and it's become subluxated. The glutes will tighten over the joint and progressively get stiffer and stiffer the longer the issue goes on. Mr Croysdale could help that massively.

Good luck!!!


Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:03 pm
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Post Re: An Explanation and Cure for a common cause of CPPS - Upd
I appreciate your work and effort David88. I really do man, thanks for posting.

I'm currently trying to figure out what is truly going on with me and its been a long road. It really does some like muscle/nerve/bone problems now rather than bacterial infection.
But the fact that this all started with chlamydia makes me really wonder if it truly is non-bacterial, my only theory is that I had a long time tension build up and that just put me over the limit, it was the night after a prolonged masturbation that the start of symptoms really happened. I've done many many tests and all were negative.

I had some pretty bad anxiety and things were getting worse, until I stumbled on david wise and a headache in the pelvis. Over the last week I've been devoted to relaxing mentally and physically, and most of my symptoms drastically reduced. Which really further pushed me to believe this is entirely muscle/nerve problems (getting to the absolute bottom of it might be harder than just relaxing and de-stressing though).

All I feel now is slight discomfort with urinating and some urinary retention, also a weird tension/discomfort in the rectum, it doesn't even feel deep like its at my prostate, just feels like some muscle discomfort in the buttocks. Also ejaculating feels somewhat odd and not normal but I wouldn't say painful.

I'm really not sure if the remaining symptoms will go away on their own or if its going to involve some serious change in me physically. I saw an osteopath but he didn't seem like the guy to really fix me, I think I am going to try and find another one that really understands the pelvic area and pudendal nerve, I have a physical therapist appointment with a lady who specializes in pelvic floor problems next week too.

And then I read stiff like this http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... facts.org/ and I question the entire direction I am going.


Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:46 pm
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Post Re: An Explanation and Cure for a common cause of CPPS - Upd
http://prostatitis.org/redirect.php?lin ... CQRNK7BGMc

Interesting.

This shows that there is some research being done in how tibial nerve compression in the ankle/foot can affect the tone of the pelvic floor.

There very signals this device is sending up to the sacral plexus is similar to what you would get naturally with a compression of the nerve. Tarsal Tunnel syndrome brought on by Posterior Tibialis dysfunction (adult acquired flat foot syndrome).

Be sure to get your Posterior Tibialis muscle checked out and your Tarsal Tunnel.

Could be the cause of flat feet and Prostatitis.


Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:37 pm
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It's interesting you mention the arch of foot and calf. When my "prostatits" symptoms were at their worst, I would have a sharp pain in the arch of my left foot and then a mimicking pain in the inside of my rectum on the left side. I've been really good for a few months almost a year now, every once in a while I get a weird twitch on the right side of my left calf muscle and I also feel the twitch in the inside of my rectum left side. I really feel you are on to something.


Mon May 08, 2017 12:53 am
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Re: Propecia / Finastride 1mg causing prostatitis

This post is to help people who were prescribed Finastride 1mg/propecia and developed prostatitis. I started Finastride 1Mg / propecia around August of 2013 and was doing well until July of 2015. I started having prostatitis pain. Please note to the reader that I had no clue what prostatitis was at the time.

I went to my GP and 4 u urologists and told them about the pain and that I was taking Finastride 1mg/ propeica. My gp and 3 urologist did not advise that I should stop taking Finastride / propecia and see what happens. They said to keep taking Finastride/ propeica and it has nothing to do with the pain or prostatitis. One urologist prescribed antibiotics and indicated that if doesn't get better you may want to stop Finastride /propecia for around 9 months.

The pain/ prostatitis got so uncomfortable that I had to see a psychiatrist in March of 2017. The psychiatrist suggested that I come off Finastride/propecia for a 1 month to see what happens. It's been 2 months that I stopped the medication and my pain is much less or some days no pain at all. So my point was that the urologists that I saw had no clue that the cause was simply Finastride/ propecia. So if you have prostatitis and you've been taking Finastride/ propecia this means that your body is saying please stop taking this medication or at least stop for a while.

I would rather had less hair than having this so called prostatitis that has made my life uncomfortable for the last almost 2 years. I hope this helps anyone that has taken Finstride 1mg/Propecia and has had prostatitis or prostate issues.


Fri May 19, 2017 1:13 pm
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Thanks april1984 for sharing your story.


Sat May 20, 2017 6:37 am
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Post Re: An Explanation and Cure for a common cause of CPPS - Upd
Get your Adductor muscles checked. (Groin)

Refer pain into pelvis
Can cause anterior pelvic tilt
Antagonist muscle to flutes which causes foot turn out
Leads to flat foot and Tibialis Posterior dysfunction
Is connected by fascia to the pelvic floor

This group of muscles could be the holy grail to undoing the issue


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